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Talk:Boss Endurance

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Merge into The Arena

The separation of Boss Endurance and The Arena always baffled me. They're both...boss endurances? It's just that one's a whole lot more brutal than the other. ...Right?

Going by the article's own words:

Boss Endurance is distinguished from The Arena in that, generally speaking, no Copy Abilities or rest areas are provided between bosses. Additionally, it is not typically required to complete this mode in order to earn 100% completion.

About half the challenges listed as a Boss Endurance break at least one of these rules:

  • The Boss Butch in Kirby's Dream Land 3 is required for 100% completion, the only so-called Boss Endurance to do so.
  • The Boss Endurance in Kirby & The Amazing Mirror is an Arena in everything but name, featuring Copy Abilities, rest areas, random bosses, and healing. The only one of the above rules it follows is the 100% rule, which Dream Land 3 already breaks.
  • The Boss Endurance in Kirby: Squeak Squad follows the definition a little more closely, but it also offers abilities and a healing item at the start.
  • The Arena in Kirby: Planet Robobot has you fight bosses in order and gives you healing items at set points rather than to use at your leisure. While it doesn't fulfill most aspects of the above definition, it breaks from the conventions of most Arenas and is actually referred to as "Boss Endurance" in Japanese (unlike the other three Arenas).

Ultimately, keeping these separate just feels arbitrary and unhelpful, as if the entire purpose of this page is to lump together every Boss Endurance that isn't called The Arena. I get that the various Arenas have similarities that should be noted, but this page just feels like a mess as it is. I propose we either merge the two, or reclassify some of the Boss Endurances based on definition rather than name (e.g. move Amazing Mirror's version to the Arena page). --YFJ (talk · edits) 04:49, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

I have to agree with this, as it was something that confused me. Keeping in mind that this article is from 2010, when the only Kirby games that had a proper Arena were Super Star and its remake, it made more sense back then to have a separate page; it feels arbitrary now. StrawberryChan (talk) 04:57, 2 September 2020 (UTC)