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| About the rotation, and how it often doesn't happen because it's forgotten, I wonder if that's due to how it's just a task that isn't very organized or documented anywhere. Wouldn't it be better to try to delegate the task to someone (or a group of users) and/or create a guide on how to update it? And perhaps create a supplementary page with a list of all featured pages and articles to help with the rotation. Just some ideas that came to my mind. In short, I just think we could try to make the system easier for updating rather than scrap it entirely, and while I thought of automatizing the rotation, it may not be needed if we can just organize the task better. {{User:Gigi/sig}} 14:23, 14 April 2021 (UTC) | | About the rotation, and how it often doesn't happen because it's forgotten, I wonder if that's due to how it's just a task that isn't very organized or documented anywhere. Wouldn't it be better to try to delegate the task to someone (or a group of users) and/or create a guide on how to update it? And perhaps create a supplementary page with a list of all featured pages and articles to help with the rotation. Just some ideas that came to my mind. In short, I just think we could try to make the system easier for updating rather than scrap it entirely, and while I thought of automatizing the rotation, it may not be needed if we can just organize the task better. {{User:Gigi/sig}} 14:23, 14 April 2021 (UTC) |
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| =="NIWA wikis" template to replace its notice template equivalents (March 31st, 2021 - April 14th, 2021)==
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| {{:User:Viperision/Sandbox|transcludesection=NIWA wikis
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| There was this template in my backlog of ideas, and it came up to viably replace [[Template:SmashWiki]], [[Template:MarioWiki]], [[Template:MetroidWiki]] and [[Template:NWiki]] in order to condense the space multiple such interwiki links take, as well as to distinguish them from maintenance-related [[:Category:Notice templates|notice templates]].
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| Current templates look okay (or even better) on smaller (mobile) resolutions, but I think they are sometimes obnoxious with their yellow tone and take too much space when used, especially in sections. This alternative would work well in "External links" sections, although [[Meta Knight#Super Smash Bros. series|there are examples]] where it could be less wieldy to use.
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| Note that =1 will link to <code><nowiki>{{FULLPAGENAME}}</nowiki></code>, otherwise to another specified article. —[[User:Viperision|Viperision]] ([[User talk:Viperision|talk]]) 13:48, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
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| <s>#The pink not looking like the improvement templates (and more Kirby-like) and the whole thing being more compact (''especially'' if there are multiple interwiki links) are both great. This also would fix the fact that not every wiki has a template, which while not necessarily a problem, doesn't hurt for consistency's sake. {{User:Pinkyoshifan/sig}} 23:01, 1 April 2021 (UTC)</s><br>
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| <s>#This looks like it'll be a nice improvement. Having the notice templates look like maintenance ones is inconsistent and takes up space, so this will be a better way to handle these interwiki links. {{User:Obsessive Mario Fan/sig}} 20:58, 10 April 2021 (UTC)</s>
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| *This seems like a good initiative to cut down on notice space. That said, I do wonder how truly necessary this is, since not a lot of our articles will have/need links to multiple different wikis. Also, I'm wondering if it would be better to format this so it appears on the left side of the page, rather than the right. --[[User:Samwell|Samwell]] ([[User talk:Samwell|talk]]) 15:10, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
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| Re: [[User:Samwell|@Samwell]], yeah I thought about it, only a handful of wikis will ever be inter-linked in mainspace this way (the fact there are only these four templates for this purpose shows itself), relatively low number of times. As for the alignment, a parameter can be easily made to appear anywhere you want. Nonetheless, this proposed template is meant to just be an alternative for wherever the mentioned four templates are used. —[[User:Viperision|Viperision]] ([[User talk:Viperision|talk]]) 22:59, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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| I wondering - where this template will be put? Not every page has external links section, and making such section solely for this template doesn't look nice (especially when it's on the right). {{User:Superbound/sig}} 15:46, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
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| :I imagine it could just go wherever the [[Template:MarioWiki|current]] [[Template:NWiki|templates]] [[Template:SmashWiki|for this stuff]] go now, at the start of pages or sections (should work fairly well as long as a parameter to make it on the left is implemented). {{User:Pinkyoshifan/sig}} 17:14, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
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| ::I think it would work a lot better being in the bottom section, off to the right, [https://www.mariowiki.com/Mario#References like MarioWiki handles it]. If we just had one of these replace all of those notice templates, it would be much more obnoxious. {{User:Obsessive Mario Fan/sig}} 20:58, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
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| :::'''@PinkYoshiFan''' [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/323530530681520129/830682546034704404/viper_proposal_1.PNG here] it would look horrible in my opinion.
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| :::'''@Obsessive Maroi Fan''' there's problem, as this wiki almost universally uses {{t|ref}}, making it impossible to put it there, and it would be awkward having this template in urelated section like "Names in other languages" or "Gallery". [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/323530530681520129/830682624217448468/viper_proposal_2.PNG This] is how it would look like if put on one of the smaller articles in the bottom section, where it's rather unnoticeable in my opinion. {{User:Superbound/sig}} 05:59, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
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| ::::I thought we would just handle it like I mentioned, but I forgot about the ref thing, and the ways you've shown don't look good at all. I'll withdraw my vote on this for now. {{User:Obsessive Mario Fan/sig}} 06:45, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
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| :{{t|ref}} can be modified to include an optional parameter for code injection between <nowiki>==References== and <references/></nowiki> to make this template usable in that section like on SMW. For the [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/323530530681520129/830682624217448468/viper_proposal_2.PNG Metroid article example] - I haven't figured out how to give margins to infobox templates (ideally these boxes wouldn't touch). Here [https://i.imgur.com/VVNcUIh.png are] [https://i.imgur.com/Hwy8hIL.png two] alternative ways with '''left float''' (separated from text by placing the template in a new paragraph). Regardless of this template, [https://i.imgur.com/eGnjBbf.png this is how] the current MetroidWiki template would look with "lightpink" border and "pink" background.
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| :Some articles don't have a "References" or "External links" section, but placing it in the very bottom right above navboxes seems how other wikis handle this. —[[User:Viperision|Viperision]] ([[User talk:Viperision|talk]]) 12:42, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
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| ::Y'know, it was suggested on the Discord by erika that instead of having a separate template for linking to other NIWA wikis, we could instead add those links to the infobox for the subject in question. I think making the infobox slightly taller in order to cut down on other more intrusive templates may be the best solution here, and probably something we could enact without needing to make it a proposal. --[[User:Samwell|Samwell]] ([[User talk:Samwell|talk]]) 13:46, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
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| :::That seems like a good idea, but what about articles line [[Nintendo]] that don't have infoboxes? {{User:Pinkyoshifan/sig}} 14:01, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
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| ::::I think we could keep the old notice templates for articles like that as a temporary measure. Ideally, the Nintendo article should have an infobox of some kind or other in future. --[[User:Samwell|Samwell]] ([[User talk:Samwell|talk]]) 14:06, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
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| I like the infobox idea, albeit that idea derails from this proposal entirely, which means that most likely it will need to separated from this. I don't mind creating {{t|Infobox-Company}} or {{t|Infobox-Staff}}. Also if it comes to existence I want to create a special template for inserting interwiki links here to preserve icons as they look cool.
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| If that doesn't come into play however, I'm not against modifying ref template like you suggested '''@Viperision'''.
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| Putting NIWA template on left just looks... ugly, I prefer the above mentioned infobox solution.
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| Pink notice templates could work as a (hopefully temporary) notice template on pages without infoboxes, through as a replacement for current ones don't make sense - one of the points of the original idea was to reduce space taken by them, and it won't work like that.
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| And my final, a little bit small, worry, is that ''"slightly taller ''[infoboxes]''"'' might not be just "slight" in case of [[Super Smash Bros. Ultimate#External Links|some pages]]. {{User:Superbound/sig}} 18:34, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
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| :I think we might end up doing the infobox solution over the one in my proposal. In that case, I'm not sure whether the original proposal is to be vetoed (regardless of the vote outcome). I'll try to make these into the infobox in near time. {{User:Viperision/sig}} 19:18, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
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| ::We could just make the link section collapsed by default, but yeah, this isn't the same proposal anymore. Since it's at less than three support and zero oppose, it's just going to go on infinitely unless something happens... Should I change my vote to oppose then to stop this proposal? {{User:Pinkyoshifan/sig}} 20:36, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
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| :::You don't necessarily need to change your vote, since the rules stipulate that at least three supporting votes are needed to make a proposal pass, and there's only one right now. I suspect this discussion will go into the failed archive pretty soon. --[[User:Samwell|Samwell]] ([[User talk:Samwell|talk]]) 20:22, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
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| ::'''@Viperision''' I've created an [[:category:Infobox parts|infobox part]] for infobox solution [[User:Superbound/Sandbox/Template2|here]], are you going to request to veto this proposal and repropose it, then? {{User:Superbound/sig}} 12:42, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
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