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 ::::::I'm apparently watching this page, so just chiming in that they should probably not be split and moving it to Friend would make the most sense (unless there's any more recent use of another name). They seem like they're intended to be essentially the same concept and the difference isn't that big.<br/>Moving Normal Beam to Unfriend I would disagree with, as it sounds like Unfriend is simply a move while the Normal Beam is an object. The beam itself is not "an Unfriend" so the title wouldn't make sense for it.--[[User:Vellidragon|Vellidragon]] ([[User talk:Vellidragon|talk]]) 05:16, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
 :::::::I agree with moving to Friend due to being the newest name, and I think that moving Normal Beam to Unfriend would also work for the same reason since Normal Beam is described as an ability (and [[:File:KSA Unfriend.jpg|the blue circle summoned by it appears in KSA as well]]). {{User:Pinkyoshifan/sig}} 14:43, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
+::::::::I know that all of us can't agree on a decision, but most people agree that Helper be moved to Friend, and Normal Beam be mpved to Unfriend. I would love to make this change, if the admins allow me to do it. But we first need to make a decision. I agree with [[User:Gigi]] and everyone else who thinks that they should be moved to "Friend" and "Unfriend". Since most people think like this, then I think we should stop arguing, because My idea is clearly more popular. Or, we could have a vote, and see which has the most votes. --[[User:IsaacBoi321|IsaacBoi321]] ([[User talk:IsaacBoi321|talk]]) 15:53, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
+:::::::::Re: Normal Beam, you're right, the "Normal Beam" is the ability. I thought it was the name of the wand it creates, since it looks like the Beam wand, but that is called "Ability Item". I agree then that it can be moved, it's also not had a consistent name anyway (went from Suppin Beam to Normal Beam to Unfriend).--[[User:Vellidragon|Vellidragon]] ([[User talk:Vellidragon|talk]]) 16:33, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
+::::::::::I agree with the initial statement. They're too similar to get their own pages in my opinion. {{User:Starvoid/sig}} 18:14, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
+(Had to jump back down here) Typically we do go with the idea that most people agree with, and on that note I agree with having the pages moved to Friend and Unfriend for above reasons, but I wouldn't consider this discussion a heated argument. Let's not make it one with aggravation or by picking favorites, 'kay? We're all friends here, just sharing what we think is best. -- {{User:Jellytost♡/sig}} 16:09, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
+:Also we typically wait a couple days, just to make sure no one else will disagree. If we were to just gather, say, 3 opinions in one side in just a couple hours, that doesn't exactly mean that is the most popular one; maybe in 5 days 5 others would come with a different argument and convince those other 3. And since this page isn't critical or anything, it's best for us to just wait to see if anyone else has anything new to add or differing opinions, instead of doing big changes in a hurry. {{User:Gigi/sig}} 16:27, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
+::Personally, I feel as though Normal Beam and Unfriend are two seperate things. The Normal Beam part is what causes the Unfriend. Unfriend is just what happens when the Normal Beam is used. I could be entirely wrong on this and this could be untrue, but this is just what I think is going on. I agree that the Helper page should be moved to Friend, but I do not think the Normal Beam page should be moved to Unfriend. That's just my two-cents. {{User:Basic Person/sig}} 00:22, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
+:::I know that there are votes on WiKirby, and I want to start one, to see more people's opinions. I don't know how though, but if someone could create a vote on moving Helper to Friend and Normal Beam to Unfriend. That would be appreciated :)--[[User:IsaacBoi321|IsaacBoi321]] ([[User talk:IsaacBoi321|talk]]) 01:33, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
+::::It looks like the general consensus is to move this page to Friend, but there seems to be disagreement on if Normal Beam should be moved to Unfriend. That being said, I feel like they should both be moved or not moved together. Having one page use the KSS(U) term and one page use the KSA term would definitely be inconsistient. {{User:Pinkyoshifan/sig}} 15:24, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
+:::::Bump {{User:Pinkyoshifan/sig}} 12:38, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
+::::::I would suggest calling a vote on this one to decide the matter. Two at the same time on Friend or Helper, & Normal Beam or Unfriend. Would also be good to let people know it's happening. --[[User:Samwell|Samwell]] ([[User talk:Samwell|talk]]) 18:14, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
+:::::::While I agree that a vote would probably be the best option at this point, I don't think having them separate would be good, since then one page could be using the old name and a related page using the new name. Although if people think they would be better as separate votes, would they be on their respective pages or would both be here? {{User:Pinkyoshifan/sig}} 02:00, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
+::::::::I see mostly an agreement to move this page to Friend, but for Normal Beam vs Unfriend I don't think anything has been decided, and it feels a bit off-topic of this page. I am going to use this opportunity to leave some final days to see if anyone is objected to moving this page to Friend, and if not I will move it. As for Normal Beam vs Unfriend, I will move that soon to that page's talk page for a better discussion. {{User:Gigi/sig}} 18:33, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
+It's been forever but, thinking back, I suppose keeping it as Helper is fine when the Japanese name of Friends is "Friend Helper". Well I will open this back one last time. {{User:Gigi/sig}} 22:22, 16 June 2024 (UTC)