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::::::::::::Different game that came out much later and had a virtually separate developer team; I mean in the context of the original game, though technically we never find out Dark Meta Knight's name or Dark Mind's existence until late in the game when they're the final bosses, so the idea of Shadow Kirby possibly being a creation of Dark Mind likely wouldn't cross the player's mind. [[User:AdieuLain|AdieuLain]] ([[User talk:AdieuLain|talk]]) 03:33, 17 September 2019 (UTC) | ::::::::::::Different game that came out much later and had a virtually separate developer team; I mean in the context of the original game, though technically we never find out Dark Meta Knight's name or Dark Mind's existence until late in the game when they're the final bosses, so the idea of Shadow Kirby possibly being a creation of Dark Mind likely wouldn't cross the player's mind. [[User:AdieuLain|AdieuLain]] ([[User talk:AdieuLain|talk]]) 03:33, 17 September 2019 (UTC) | ||
:::::::::::::Not sure what the development teams have to do with this. Both teams were working from the same continuity and trying to weave a coherent narrative that linked the games together. Let's drop the red herring of mine regarding whether Shadow Kirby may have been construed to have been created by Dark Mind or not. The idea I was trying to get at is that in ''Kirby & The Amazing Mirror'', Shadow Kirby is initially presented as an enemy, and that is where the name is used. Later in the credits sequence, we have him appear again, this time referred to as the "Kirby of the Mirror World" instead of Shadow Kirby. Do you not see the argument that there may have been an attempt to mislead the player initially by calling him Shadow Kirby in the first place, and that all subsequent references to the character preserve that name as an homage to that initial attempt to mislead the player? --[[User:Fubaka|Fubaka]] ([[User talk:Fubaka|talk]]) 03:40, 17 September 2019 (UTC) | :::::::::::::Not sure what the development teams have to do with this. Both teams were working from the same continuity and trying to weave a coherent narrative that linked the games together. Let's drop the red herring of mine regarding whether Shadow Kirby may have been construed to have been created by Dark Mind or not. The idea I was trying to get at is that in ''Kirby & The Amazing Mirror'', Shadow Kirby is initially presented as an enemy, and that is where the name is used. Later in the credits sequence, we have him appear again, this time referred to as the "Kirby of the Mirror World" instead of Shadow Kirby. Do you not see the argument that there may have been an attempt to mislead the player initially by calling him Shadow Kirby in the first place, and that all subsequent references to the character preserve that name as an homage to that initial attempt to mislead the player? --[[User:Fubaka|Fubaka]] ([[User talk:Fubaka|talk]]) 03:40, 17 September 2019 (UTC) | ||
::::::::::::::Development teams can make a difference because later developers might not always fully grasp what earlier developers were trying to convey - the absence of Flapship, Dimps, and importantly Sakurai is no small detail. (As an aside, Shadow Dedede also only received overt connections to Dark Mind via King D-Mind and originally seemed to be written as an unaffiliated mirror denizen, but that's unimportant.) My point is, despite not directly mentioning Shadow Kirby by name, the ending text was simply not intended as a reveal of his true name, and the English version both has somewhat vague wording and is too much of a one-off occurrence. We don't take "the Nightmares" half as seriously. I also think that if the creators deliberately wanted to obfuscate Shadow Kirby's name, they would have used "? ? ?" like they did in the first Dark Meta Knight fight, which would have definitely helped serve to mislead the player if that was what they truly wanted to achieve. Lastly, if we believe the premise that "all subsequent references to the character preserve that name as an homage", then there could never be "further notice" that would finally move the title, no? [[User:AdieuLain|AdieuLain]] ([[User talk:AdieuLain|talk]]) 04:18, 17 September 2019 (UTC) | |||
:Actually, it's still called the Mirror World when you pause the game while playing Guest Star ???? as Dark Meta Knight. – [[User:Owencrazyboy17|Owencrazyboy17]] ([[User talk:Owencrazyboy17|talk]]) 01:47, 17 September 2019 (UTC) | :Actually, it's still called the Mirror World when you pause the game while playing Guest Star ???? as Dark Meta Knight. – [[User:Owencrazyboy17|Owencrazyboy17]] ([[User talk:Owencrazyboy17|talk]]) 01:47, 17 September 2019 (UTC) | ||
::Then the mirror world / Mirror-world / Mirror World, on top of having an inconsistent translation, also has inconsistent formatting. That's actually another reason to move it to the common name. [[User:AdieuLain|AdieuLain]] ([[User talk:AdieuLain|talk]]) 02:04, 17 September 2019 (UTC) | ::Then the mirror world / Mirror-world / Mirror World, on top of having an inconsistent translation, also has inconsistent formatting. That's actually another reason to move it to the common name. [[User:AdieuLain|AdieuLain]] ([[User talk:AdieuLain|talk]]) 02:04, 17 September 2019 (UTC) | ||