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I have no idea how a real physical human and the canonical intentionality behind the worldbuilding referencing how humanity used to be there is still speculation. Idk if you mean something like she being the only human, or if they were all like her but she still isn't human. But I'm good agreeing to disagree. [[User:Eficiente|Eficiente]] ([[User talk:Eficiente|talk]]) 16:23, 28 March 2024 (UTC-3) | I have no idea how a real physical human and the canonical intentionality behind the worldbuilding referencing how humanity used to be there is still speculation. Idk if you mean something like she being the only human, or if they were all like her but she still isn't human. But I'm good agreeing to disagree. [[User:Eficiente|Eficiente]] ([[User talk:Eficiente|talk]]) 16:23, 28 March 2024 (UTC-3) | ||
:I appreciate the honesty, and I also get where you're coming from. The primary thing to consider here is that, in order to create and vote on proposals, you must be an established contributor to the wiki. You don't necessarily have to be fully invested in it, but being able to help out is a plus. It doesn't take that much time to talk on talk pages and such, even if you don't use Discord (completely understandable, by the way!) | |||
:To elaborate a bit on the points I mentioned: | |||
:*Japanese text consistently uses the word 国 ''kuni'' to describe Dream Land, which can broadly be translated as "country", "land", "world", or "kingdom" (and has been translated as all four at some point). For "kingdom" in particular, the opening of ''[[Kirby's Epic Yarn]]'' calls it "a kingdom famous for peace and quiet". Dedede doesn't necessarily have to be a real king for the place to be called a kingdom. | |||
:*I agree in principle that things can be implied but unstated, and that these can be covered while remaining objective and informative, but I also think that we shouldn't make logical leaps that don't exist in the information we are given. For example, just because we say "Dark Meta Knight didn't corrupt Sectonia" doesn't mean that "every other instance of looking at the mirror causes corruption"; that's a false equivalency. "If [A] is true, then [unrelated point B] must also be true". (It's my theory that Sectonia drove ''herself'' to madness and the mirror doesn't actually have any special powers, but that's also not confirmed.) | |||
:*For the last point, it's mainly because one, the real physical human doesn't actually appear in the games, and two, the term used in Japanese in that interview (人の息吹, "the breath of humanity") can broadly be taken to refer to as "signs of people" — remnants that a civilization once lived there — rather than literally meaning that humans once lived there. I agree it's ''likely'', but it's not like we can call it canonically confirmed. | |||
:I hope that makes sense. I appreciate that you took the time to reply to me! I know you must be deeply invested in these subjects, and I appreciate that you're open to discussion even if you may not have the time to fully devote yourself to it. [[User:StarPunch|StarPunch]] ([[User talk:StarPunch|talk]]) 20:00, 28 March 2024 (UTC) | |||