Talk:Kirby

References

For some reason, I can only see the References in this article when I'm logged in; otherwise, there is just a large, empty section at the bottom. Does anyone else have this problem, or any idea what may be causing it?--Vellidragon 19:03, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

I have this problem too. I don't think it's the references themselve; when I was logged off, I could see those in Smash Ride just fine. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 19:20, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Re-inserting subst:Ref didn't fix it... Is it anything to do with the fact the page's semi-protected? Moydow 20:48, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

It is likely more technical than editing the page. To me, it brings up the question; why can logged-in users see the references, whereas logged-out users cannot? Unless a user group right prevents anons from seeing references on protected pages (which is highly unlikely, since they can on Wikipedia). I'm going to log out, and go back to my sandbox for a while. Moydow 00:15, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Well, all my attempts to fix it failed. :( But I did discover the root of the problem; it appears the gallery 'disagrees' with the references, causing them to disappear when a user is logged out. Moydow 00:57, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

This sounds familiar, I think an issue in the MediaWiki namespace javascript is to blame.Axiomist (talk) 04:50, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Appearances

I'm wondering how information from different types of media will be organized. Will information from written works and TVs be put with the games or in a separate section? I want to cover some of the anime and manga information Kirby has appeared in, but I'm not sure where it needs to go. Aphelocomaマリオ 18:42, 30 October 2012 (CDT)

The Quality Standards contain a basic layout that includes sections for those things, for the sake of standardising them. The organisation within those sections I'm not fully sure about yet. Clean's Anime section has sub-sections for individual episodes, but I believe that should only be done for subjects that appear in a manageable number of those. Kirby is in every episode, so to avoid having 100+ sub-sections, his role in the series should probably be summarised & key facts/events should be noted.--Vellidragon 11:40, 31 October 2012 (CDT)

Fix it

There are stuff like "magolor" and "noob" in this. KirbyFunny2014 (talk) 19:48, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Sprites

The sprite it says is used for Kirby's dreamland isn't the same sprite as the one used in Kirby's dreamland 2. It looks exactly like the one used in pinball but without the blush. --triwizchamp05

I suppose there are a few minor differences. Are you up for updating the table? --Fubaka (talk) 15:08, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

Yes, I have the image of the sprite ready too Triwizchamp05 (talk) 17:35, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

Gender

while Kirby is thoguht of as being male in Amarica, in Japan, he is known for being Gender Neutral —Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.93.54.201 (talk • contribs) . Please always sign your comments by typing ~~~~!

To answer you question WiKirby always uses American English version over others, altrought other are mentioned later in the article. Maybe in Names in other languages section.

Also, please don't edit other users comments Superbound (talk) 06:52, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

putting the year next to debut

May I at least put the year next to the name of the first and latest appearance? Since this is a technique most wikis use. Rowbro

I'd see no harm in it, but that would have to be done with all the pages involving these parameters. Also, you can more easily sign your posts by typing four tildes (~~~~) at the end of your posts. --Samwell (talk) 01:05, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the answer, I'll make sure to do that with all the pages with parameters. I would be perfectly glad with you helping me.Rowbro (talk) 03:39, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

We can start doing that going forward, but I personally am busy with other matters on the wiki. If you want to enlist more people to help, you should get on the Discord server and ask there. That would be the best way. --Samwell (talk) 04:01, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

famous and farmiliar

can I replace "most famous and familiar" with "major", It would be a lot more simple and understandableRowbro (talk) 22:40, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

There's not really much need. The wording gets the point across as-is. -- Jellytost♡ (talk) 22:46, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

Soooo...

You know how every Extra Game is considered non-canon save for Heroes In Another Dimension, due to it being a continuation of the main story of Kirby Star Allies?

It's... an odd question, yes, but it does make me wonder if an additional paragraph should be added to the section detailing the events of Star Allies that mentions Kirby's involvement there. Not saying that you absolutely HAVE to, but the option's always there. 141.101.98.127 20:45, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Split characteristics into its own page

I'd be fine with a split; perhaps a page titled "Kirby's anatomy" to match Kirby's voice, rather than a subpage? StarPunch (talk) 03:57, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

Well, since it would also include the personality section, I think "Kirby's characteristics" might be better, but I suppose if in the future those two subjects need to be split themselves, then we can do that. :P --Samwell (talk) 03:58, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

That'd also work! LOL StarPunch (talk) 04:02, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

It's a good idea to do it sooner rather than later. Take inspiration from Bowser's article from Super Mario Wiki. Look how massive the "General information" about him is! Support for splitting. ⁠–⁠Wiz (talk · edits) 11:54, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

Arcana

So apparently whether or not to include Arcana as Kirby's first appearance in the infobox is controversial enough for it to have been reverted twice, which...confuses me to say the least, and since I feel strongly enough about this to want to convince people I took to the talk page to complain about it.
Here's my rebuttals to the arguments against including Arcana:

• "It's not notable enough for the infobox"/"It's only a minor cameo" - Are there actually any rules about what appearances are "too minor" for an infobox mention? If there are, they seem to be pretty lenient - if a cameo as a stone or statue or sticker or portrait or keychain or mask or costume or confectionery is sufficient, I don't see why a brief appearance in the flesh isn't.
• "The game only came out a month before Kirby's Dream Land" - While it's true that Kirby wasn't invented to be a background character in Arcana, the infobox isn't for the first planned appearance, it's for the first actual appearance, otherwise Dedede Robo's first appearance would be the cancelled GameCube game. And if the argument here is that Arcana's inclusion would be somehow misleading, I'd say the opposite - listing a character's second appearance as the first appearance is the more misleading decision here, and I also don't plan on completely erasing Kirby's Dream Land from the infobox but rather listing both it and Arcana.
• "The appearance is noted later in the page anyway" - This is the one that confuses me the most because it could be applied to literally every character, item, etc. on the wiki. If listing Arcana in the infobox is redundant, then why isn't it redundant to list Kirby's Dream Land, or any other game for that matter? Wouldn't this make it redundant to even have an infobox at all?

End of rant (further response rants welcome). Hewer (talk · contributions) 15:59, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

I agree with all your points, the only "downside" is how weird it would be for Kirby, the main character of his series, to have his first appearance be marked as outside in the infobox; but since that's the case anyway I think it makes sense to have the page the way you edited it. ShadowKirby (t/c) a.k.a. your new overlord ShadowMagolor 16:05, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

Just to clarify, like I told you in the edit revision, you shouldn't have even added it a second time per the dispute policy. Judging from your message it appears you didn't read that policy, so I highly recommend you to do so. This is why this was reverted twice, because the second one was against the dispute policy.

Anyway, since you are specifically arguing against my own arguments let me argue back:

I think the biggest thing you are ignoring is that Arcana isn't a Kirby game. Would you say Roy (from Fire Emblem) first game appearance be Smash Bros. Melee for you? Because it is misleading indeed to claim that this character was first in a game that referenced his actual first appearance. The whole point is, Kirby wasn't created for Arcana, he was created for Kirby's Dream Land and Arcana just so happened to release before Kirby's Dream Land (hence why I said "The game only came out a month before Kirby's Dream Land"). You probably know that Kirby's Dream Land was actually delayed because they had the game done, but then they had to rebrand it. It just so happened.

"It's not notable enough for the infobox"/"It's only a minor cameo" is again a fact. Your comparison with characters like Rick doesn't make sense when Kirby in his own series has literally only once appeared as a cameo. So yeah, it's not notable enough when Kirby is literally the main character of his own series.

I only said "The appearance is noted later in the page anyway" because, once again, this is a fact, and I am just saying that I'm not against mentioning this in the page. However, like I said, I still think it's misleading to list the first appearance of the literal main character of the series in a cameo where, quite frankly, is so minor. He is literally just in a frame of the intro and twice in fact. We don't even have an official confirmation that this is Kirby to begin with as far as I know, so yet another point for this being misleading. And speaking of official confirmation, I don't think this cameo was ever even acknowledged by HAL, so if the own creators of Kirby don't consider it his first appearance, why would we?

Related to this, someone once tried to add that Bandana Waddle Dee's first appearance was Kirby's Toy Box, which I also reverted. For cases like this, I feel that trying to list stuff like this for the sake of it being true in a way is just obnoxious. We gain literally nothing by putting in the infobox that Kirby had a extremely minor cameo in an obscure game that released only a month before his actual debut appearance. I just... don't get at all why this needs to be listed, and why you feel so strongly about it. - Gigi (talk • edits) 16:39, 4 September 2023 (UTC)