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Hello there. I'm not terribly interested in being part of this wiki, but I'm interested in Kirby and that people may have a place where to find all possible information about it.

Things I disagree with

Respectfully. I don't follow anything here, so if any of the stuff below was removed, please contact me so I may remove it from here. Any staff can simply edit the profile to remove it too.

  • I don't find good to replace parts of a translation as it is with things exclusive to localizations. It removes part of what was actually written and how things are in Japan, which has value on its own.
  • I disagree with how "There's nothing wrong with referring to Kirby with he/him in translations". I'm aware that he doesn't use the equivalent of gender neutral pronouns, but that would only be something to consider when he's the one talking.
  • Kirby didn't use the Sparkling Stars to inflate into a giant hot air balloon at the end of the first game, Sakurai said twice that he did so by his own powers. It is very counterintuitive though.
  • Dream Land is not a kingdom, it can't be because it doesn't have a king. King Dedede is explicitly not a king, we are told time and again that he just claims to be one and his role as a king is put into question. Because of that, it stands to reason that any other statement implying that he is a king just plays along his narrative rather than anything else.
  • I like this sandbox, just a few things I disagree with.
    • "Dark Meta Knight did not corrupt Queen Sectonia" is vague. Maybe he did, or maybe the mirror had some leftover effect from Dark Mind. It's provable that she was already obsessed, but not evil. Her mind did go evil because of the mirror's power, which is called corruption. And there is no reason to believe that the bridge between the peaceful Dream Land and the peaceful Mirror World has this evil side effect on its own.
    • "dark matter can be described as a component of Void"; everyone has their own substance (Dark, soul, dream, etc) and Void has all of those substances, which is very unique. Dark Matter isn't a component of Void, Void has the substance of "dark" in him and Dark Matter most likely has the same, which is much more vague & loose as a conection. In order for Dark Matter to be a "component of Void", Dark Matter would need to be the "dark substance" itself (Can be translated as "dark matter" too, but they're not the same kanjis and it's dumb because it's not actual physical matter), which they're not, "substances" are more like, an equivalent for DNA or the way characters feel, but characters themselves are not substances.
    • "There's no set timeline and continuity in the series." & "there is no defined timeline for the series" Yes and no. Kumazaki likes to say that "There's no set timeline" and the like, so in that sense, there isn't. At the same time, at literally every opportunity he can he establishes continuity and parts of the timelines by talking about events in games that happened in the past from other games over and over, sometimes talking about events in the future from the perspective of a game being in the past. As far as objectively is concerned, there are set timelines and continuity in the series once you get to know all the information. It stands to reason that Kumazaki isn't talking about it in that sense, but that he tackles the topic from the point of view of:
      • Presentation: Like saying that a land has no map when you created all that land and you want others to explore it, or not explore it at all but at least follow the cool narrative that it has no map. You're not talking about objectively, but how what you can show to the world, the external view on a series, not its internal logic. You can make a series with a set timeline to show others, you can have a series where there is no timeline & everything happens in any point in time, and you can make a series a set timeline that you choose not to share, therefore it's correct to say that there is no timeline. It could be said that Kumazaki is lying, but at the same time he isn't. The Kirby series is for kids after all and showing them the real timelines going on would be an issue, which Kumazaki has made ref of.
      • Applicability of a timeline/timelines: The very first time he said that he was talking about a bit of a mind f*ck; in Planet Robobot on a parallel universe in the present Star Dream summoned Galacta Knight from the past, dragging him across Another Dimension, in which he fought Kirby & co. in Return to Dream Land, a past game, before ending up in that parallel universe in Planet Robobot in the present again. Kumazaki didn't say that there was no timeline there, he meant that he wouldn't know what to say about it, and if anything his wording implies that there is a timeline to follow there. It's reasonable to believe that he's fully aware of all the weird time shenanigans in the series but at least only at the time he makes them, and after that he either doesn't know how to talk about them, or doesn't even want to do it too much because that would rob enthusiasts from piecing everything together themselves. So "no set timeline" and the like in part refers to how you need to build it yourself with logic & reason, and / or, the uses of parallel universes and time shenanigans makes it so the series cannot be explained with straight timelines, like events in the history of a country would in 1 timeline, therefore such a concept is not applicable (Which it technically is, you just need to draw many timelines, make notes that explain everything weird, have many arrows that connect timelines to other timelines & different points in time). We know this interpretation of his actions are true because he implies over and over that he wants some of us (not everyone, because kids) to decipher the continuity he creates, therefore it exists. Even using your interpretation of his actions, you too would need to grab what he says with tweezers and say "He says this but he actually means [rules & standards here]" in a way that already betrays taking his words literally, and at that point how many times would it need to be proven with evidence that game 2 comes after game 1, game 3 comes after game 2, and so on to prove that this interpretation was never accurate to begin with? We can go that route, all the continuity I care about I care about because it has evidence of continuity and cause & consequence.
    • "There's no confirmation that the habitants of the New World were humans." I was on that same page, but Kumazaki reasons that there must have been humans living there; "If there is a world, there is civilization, and if there is civilization, there is writing, and there is the breath of humanity" (Kirby 30th Anniversary Music Fest Pamphlet, page 34). The context being after they presented NEICHEL, so there is no reason to believe she has an alien face.