Template talk:Music Names Chart-KDB

Do we need the memorial and bonus songs here?

Honestly, they feel very unnecessary here since they are all so similar and take so much of this table, and as far as I know most game names aren't even translated to most languages (and if they are, they are already listed in the game's pages anyway), so they will be very similar to the English names anyway. If we want to translate how each language translates "memorial/bonus song", sure, but we should probably only have one row for that, which should be more than enough. But frankly, I don't even know if that's necessary. - Gigi (talk • edits) 00:25, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

I feel that they should be somehow instead of not being at all, because at the end those are still content of the game and the name of them does change between idioms. They don't change a lot, but still the Portuguese translation has its own "música comemorativa 1" instead of reusing the "Memorial Song 1" from English, so having that somehow would be ideal to me. Though it is true that a lot of that feels like copy-pasted content. My option here would be to put at the end of the table, or maybe in a second table following the one that is here, one row per each game name to see how they are translated in this game. So one row with Kirby's Dream Land, one with Kirby's Adventure, and so on, but only the game name without the ": Memorial Song" part. And then, after the names, two more rows; one that cover the "Memorial Song 1/2/3" translations, and other for the "Bonus Song 1/2/3" ones. Like:

Japanese	American English	British English	French-Canadian	European French	Dutch	Italian	German	Latin American Spanish	Castilian Spanish	Brazilian Portuguese	Traditional Chinese	Korean	Simplified Chinese
???	Kirby's Adventure		???	???	???	Kirby's Adventure	???	???	???	Kirby's Adventure	???	???	???
???	Memorial Song 1/2/3		???	???	???	Brano dei ricordi 1/2/3 Memories track 1/2/3	???	???	???	música comemorativa 1/2/3 memorial song 1/2/3	???	???	???

So yeah, while leaving the "memorial song" thing in lowercase when it is like that. In that way we would have archived how each game name is translated in each language in this game, plus how the "memorial song 1/2/3" or "bonus song 1/2/3" part is translated. Doing it exactly like this would be missing if the game name and the "memorial song" part is sepparated byt a ": " or a " - ", unless we provide an example, or a row like "<Game name>: Memorial Song 1/2/3" specifically for that formatting. But I don't know. -Zolerian (talk | contribs) 00:47, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

If the translations of the names are identical to how they're translated in other sources, then I think that just having the translations of Memorial Song and Bonus Song would work. However, if the translation as part of the name for the song differs from other official translations for some reason (unlikely) then I think we should list that game with the system ZY proposed. Maybe also add a note at the bottom of the table saying something like "For translations of the names of the games which the Memorial and Bonus songs are from, see their respective pages"? ---PinkYoshiFan 20:29, 26 December 2022 (UTC)

Bump ---PinkYoshiFan 00:59, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

Bump 2 ---PinkYoshiFan 16:04, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

From what I can tell, there are no new translations of the game names here (for example, in Italian they name Kirby & The Amazing Mirror "Kirby e il Labirinto degli Specchi", which is what the game was originally called). I believe in Chinese for example, for games that were localized in Chinese they use their Chinese names, but for others they use English names. It would be good to double check, in particular also the Korean version. Assuming there is no new translations, I would add a row for "memorial song" and another for "bonus song" and put their translations. Otherwise, I agree that the system ZY proposed works. I will try to find that out in the game files in the next couple days, if I forget feel free to remind me. - Gigi (talk • edits) 02:33, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

If we do go through that route, then I suppose having something like "[insert game here]: Memorial Song #" would be ideal to have as well, followed by the actual translated equivalents of each game title and the Memorial Song and Bonus Song identifiers, since some translations might use a dash in place of a colon (e.g. Brazilian Portuguese). Quick question: would the "Kirby 30th Music Fest: HAL Laboratory Dream Band Song" be standalone like the other unique music tracks or would it be treated the same as the other Memorial and Bonus Songs? – Owencrazyboy17 (talk) 19:37, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

I'd say that that one should be standalone, as it has its own unique different name. -Zolerian (talk | contribs) 19:24, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, I feel like that one has a unique enough name to be separate. Having the game be included in it as well for the dash/colon thing also seems like it could work. ---PinkYoshiFan 16:03, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

Bump ---PinkYoshiFan 16:08, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Bump 2 ---PinkYoshiFan 16:13, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

I'm not reading all this. No, it's just redundant and not worth anything you can't see on the game pages. StarPunch (talk) 22:58, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

I agree, a separate row for every single Memorial Song (or even just every single game) makes the table incredibly bloated and just makes the actually interesting songs harder to find. I think it makes sense to go with the original suggestion of having only one row each for Memorial and Bonus songs. Typman (talk) 23:11, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

It seems like the consensus is for one row for memorial/bonus songs, does this seem good? (I put them at the top for ease of scrolling here, they can be moved to the bottom or wherever if that works better)

Kirby's Dream Buffet music titles
Japanese	American English	British English	French-Canadian	European French	Dutch	Italian	German	Latin American Spanish	Castilian Spanish	Brazilian Portuguese	Korean	Traditional Chinese	Simplified Chinese
メモリアル楽曲がっきょく Memorial Song	Memorial Song		???	???	???	Brano dei ricordi Memories track	???	???	???	música comemorativa memorial song	???	紀念樂曲1 Memorial Song	???
プレイ特典とくてん楽曲がっきょく Play Bonus Song	Bonus Song		???	???	???	Brano bonus Bonus track	???	???	???	música bônus Bonus Song	???	???	???
Kirby's Gourmet Fest	Kirby's Dream Buffet
I'm Hungry Pinker Ball!	I'm a Hungry Pink Puffball!		Je suis une boule rose affamée! I am a hungry pink ball!	Je suis une boule rose affamée ! I am a hungry pink ball!	Ik ben rond en roze... en ik heb honger!	Sono una palletta rosa affamata!	Rosa, rund und voller Hunger! Pink, round and full of Hunger!	¡Soy una bola rosada hambrienta!		Bolinha rosa faminta! Hungry little pink puffball!	I'm Hungry Pinker Ball!
Colorful Cute Candies	Cute, Colorful Candies		Adorables bonbons colorés Adorable colorful candies		Schattige snoepjes	Caramelle carine e colorate	Süßes buntes Süßes Sweet colorful Sweets	Dulces tiernos y coloridos	Dulces de todas las formas y colores	Docinhos deliciosos e delicados Delicious delicate little candies	Colorful Cute Candies
Youth Athletic Meet!	Working Up an Appetite		Un appétit de sportif An athlete's appetite		Sporten is goed voor de eetlust	Lo sport mette fame	Supersportlerappetit Super sportsperson appetite	Abriendo el apetito		Abrindo o apetite Working up the appetite	Youth Athletic Meet!
Fun Drive with You	On a Fun Drive with You		Sur la route avec toi On the road with you		Roadtrip met jou	Un giro in compagnia	Auf lustiger Fahrt mit dir On a fun Drive with you	Una divertida carrera junto a ti		Nosso passeio divertido Our fun ride	Fun Drive with You
Caramel Country Western			Caramels au Far West Caramels in the Far West		Caramelcountry	Country al caramello	Karamell im wilden Westen Caramel in the wild West	País de caramelo del Oeste		Caramelos do Velho Oeste Caramels of the Old West	Caramel Country Western
Jazz Band of Four Balls	Rolling-Quartet Jazz Band		Un quatuor de jazz qui roule A rolling jazz quartet		Rollend jazzkwartet	Quartetto (rotolante) jazz	Rollendes Jazzquartett Rolling Jazz quartet	Cuarteto de jazz rodante		Quarteto redondo de jazz Round jazz quartet	Jazz Band of Four Balls
Love Love Alivel	Love, Love, Alivel		Amour à Aviel Love at Alivel		Liefde voor Alivel	Love, Love, Alivel	Liebe, Liebe, Ambelen Love, Love, Alivel	Amor, amor, Alivel		Amo, amo, Alivel Love, love, Alivel	Love Love Alivel
Seven-Colored Sky	Seven Colors in the Sky		Sept couleurs dans le ciel Seven colors in the sky		Zeven kleuren aan de hemel	Sette colori nel cielo	Sieben Farben am Himmel Seven colors in the Sky	Siete colores en el cielo		Sete cores no céu Seven colors in the sky	Seven-Colored Sky
Winter Days Route 8	Route 8 on a Winter Day		La route 8 un jour d'hiver Route 8 on a winter day		Een winterse dag op route 8	La Route 8 in un giorno d'inverno	Route 8 an einem Wintertag Route 8 on a Winter day	Ruta 8 en un día de invierno		Rota 8 em um dia de inverno Route 8 on a winter day	Winter Days Route 8
Dance with Painting Witch	A Dance with the Painting Witch		Danse avec la sorcière peintre Dance with the painter witch		Een dans met de schilderende heks	Un ballo con la strega pittrice	Ein Tanz mit der malenden Hexe A Dance with the painting Witch	Un baile con la bruja pintora		Uma dança com a bruxa pintora A dance with the painting witch	Dance with Painting Witch
Colorful Pinball	Prismatic Pinball		Le levier prismatique The prismatic lever	Le flipper prismatique The prismatic pinball	Fleurige flipperkast	Flipper prismatico	Farbenfroher Flipper Colorful Pinball	Pinball prismático Prismatic pinball			Colorful Pinball
Flying in the Clouds			Vol dans les nuages Flight in the clouds		Wolkenvlucht	Volando tra le nuvole	Flug durch die Wolken Flight through the Clouds	Volando entre las nubes		Voando entre as nuvens Flying through the clouds	Flying in the Clouds
Tonight's Light Up Show	Tonight's Bright-Lights Show		Spectacle nocturne de son et lumière Nocturnal spectacle of sound and light		De lichtshow van vanavond	Luci della sera	Nächtliches Lichterspektakel Nightly Light spectacle	Espectáculo de luces nocturno		Espetáculo de luzes noturno Nightly light spectacle	Tonight's Light Up Show
Polka Dot Cityscape	Polka-Dotted Cityscape		Un paysage urbain à pois Dotted cityscape		Gestippeld stadsgezicht	Una città a pois	Ein gepunktetes Stadtbild A dotted Cityscape	Paisaje urbano a lunares		Paisagem urbana de bolinhas Cityscape of polka dots	Polka Dot Cityscape
I'm Hungry Pinker Ball! Ver.2	I'm a Hungry Pink Puffball! (Ver. 2)		Je suis une boule rose affamée! (ver. 2) I am a hungry pink ball! (ver. 2)	Je suis une boule rose affamée ! (ver. 2) I am a hungry pink ball! (ver. 2)	Ik ben rond en roze... en ik heb honger! (versie 2)	Sono una palletta rosa affamata! (Ver. 2)	Rosa, rund und voller Hunger! (Ver. 2) Pink, round and full of Hunger! (Ver. 2)	¡Soy una bola rosada hambrienta! (Ver. 2)		Bolinha rosa faminta! (versão 2) Hungry little pink puffball! (version 2)	I'm Hungry Pinker Ball! Ver.2
Kirby 30th Music Fest：ハル研けんドリームバンド楽曲がっきょく Kirby 30th Music Fest: HAL Laboratory Dream Band Song	Kirby 30th Music Fest: HAL Laboratory Dream Band Song		???	???	???	???	???	???	???	???	???	???	???
Kirby's Ultra Gourmet Memories	Kirby's Ultra-Gourmet Memories		Souvenirs gourmands de Kirby Kirby's gourmet memories		Kirby's supersmulmomenten	Ricordi Ultra-Gourmet di Kirby	Kirbys Mega-Gourmet-Erinnerungen Kirby's Mega-Gourmet-Memories	Recuerdos ultragolosos de Kirby		Lembranças ultradeliciosas do Kirby Kirby's ultra delicious memories	Kirby's Ultra Gourmet Memories
Elegant Afternoon Tea Time	Afternoon Tea		C'est l'heure du thé! It's tea time!	C'est l'heure du thé ! It's tea time!	Kopje thee in de middag	Tè pomeridiano	Nachmittagstee Afternoon tea	Té de la tarde	Té de media tarde	Chá da tarde Afternoon tea	Elegant Afternoon Tea Time

---PinkYoshiFan 21:08, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

Fine by me! Though how the Memorial Song and Bonus Song titles are formatted also differs between languages -- most do "[game name]: Memorial Song #" while others like Brazilian Portuguese do "[game name] - Memorial Song #", not to mention the different linguistic game titles. Wonder if we can work those in somehow... – Owencrazyboy17 (talk) 21:37, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

That looks good to me. StarPunch (talk) 02:09, 1 May 2023 (UTC)