Talk:HR-D3

Regarding the split suggestion

I think it is pretty clear that they are meant to be the same robot, just with differing logos on the front. Keep in mind that HR-D3 was originally meant to appear in Kirby GCN, but since that game was cancelled, it wound up attached to Return to Dream Land instead. Since HR-D3 plays such a small role in Kirby Quest, I don't think it is proper to split off the articles just because of a different internal name. --Fubaka (talk) 17:36, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

It's not just the internal name, but also 20th Anniversary Hoshi no Kirby Pupupu Taizen (note the Kirby GCN info, still within the Kirby Wii section, states that the Dedede Robot later appeared in Mass Attack but does not at all mention HR-D3's appearance). The filename is being referenced because it is HAL's own internal translation or official Japanese-to-English romanization; at any rate, there are more differences than Ado/Adeleine at least. AdieuLain (talk) 12:55, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

Interesting. It should be noted though that unlike the other sections of the encyclopedia, the Return to Dream Land section does not go into any spoiler material. Since HR-D3 is a secret boss in that game, it should not be too surprising that it does not get mentioned there. Also, I have reservations about making a separate article called Dedede Robot when there are already two more concrete examples of Dedede robots elsewhere. Namely, the Dedede Robot from Scope Shot and the Dededestroyer Z from Battle Royale. --Fubaka (talk) 17:33, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

Maybe, but here's my question: if the book authors were only trying to avoid spoilers for Kirby's Return to Dream Land, why bother using an entirely different name for the subject? After all, it's the same section and they could easily refer to it as HR-D3 without hinting that it still appears in the game. AdieuLain (talk) 18:21, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

I suspect that is because the name HR-D3 was specifically given to it for its appearance in Return to Dream Land, and was not known by that name beforehand. --Fubaka (talk) 18:26, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

There is an official guide book for Atsumete! Kirby, but considering that Kābī Wiki uses Pupupu Taizen as its source instead and the fact that they had to resort to a conjectural title for Bombot, it doesn't look like there was a public mention of Dedede Robot prior. AdieuLain (talk) 21:10, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

To give this a sense of closure, while data/rpg/rpg_dedederobot.dat ("Dedede Robot") is present in the Kirby Mass Attack files, checking Kirby's Return to Dream Land, HR-D3's textures and palette within 1 Data/files/g3d/step/chara/enemy/hrd3/Model.brres.cmp all start with BsDedederobo, which is definitely close enough (also, there are three Dedede textures bundled with it, which is obviously a GameCube leftover). AdieuLain (talk) 21:15, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Split suggestion 2

Regarding the split notice on the page now, I agree that we should split it due to being covered separately by the Dedede Directory, but should it be Dedede Robo (Kirby Mass Attack) instead, with Dedede Robo being a disambig for that and Scope Shot's version with the same name? ---PinkYoshiFan 16:05, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

Bump ---PinkYoshiFan 16:06, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

Well, no, because the Scope Shot version is called Robo Dedede, not Dedede Robo. I know technically it's the same words rearranged, but still. The only real challenge I think is if the Dedede Robo page on its own would be large enough to justify its existence. If you can't get it over 1000 bytes no matter how you try, it should not be split. --Samwell (talk) 15:58, 3 February 2023 (UTC)