Category talk:Villains

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The name of this seems to be a bit misleading; as far as I can tell, this category appears to be about Main Villains only, not every villainous character/creature appearing in the franchise. Maybe it should rather use "Main Villains" or something similar as a name to avoid confusion?--Vellidragon 20:02, 13 August 2011 (CDT)

Yeah, I found this category with only King Dedede, Meta Knight, Drawcia, and Nightmare in it. Maybe we could have a sub-category for minor villains like Escargoon, Captain Vul, etc.--Triple D is awesome 17:56, 14 August 2011 (CDT)
Not sure about more villain categories. I never really liked categorising things by potentially very subjective terms (especially since the normally objective nature of a wiki will make it seem like we're declaring these classifications to be hard facts even though the reader may not agree with them), actually, and don't quite see the use of these relatively non-informative categories either (this one and "Allies" were made without anyone's approval, as far as I'm aware), but meh. If more such categories are made though, they should have titles indicative of what exactly they are about and a clear, objective description to go by when deciding whether or not a page fits there (something which this one is also in dire need of). We don't want "but character X is actually a major villain/too minor a villain/not a villain at all!" arguments popping up :\ (Quite frankly, these are already guaranteed to pop up with the current categorisation of Meta Knight as a villain...)--Vellidragon 18:11, 14 August 2011 (CDT)
That's the problem with the Kirby series. In Mario, Zelda, etc., Mario is unquestionably good and Bowser is unquestionably bad. But Kirby's somewhat bad, Dedede is somewhat good, and Meta Knight is both. We should keep this category to just include "Final Bosses", which would be everyone currently here except for Crazy Hand, Meta Knight and Dark Meta. --Triple D is awesome 09:41, 15 August 2011 (CDT)
It's often more complicated than that in Mario (and probably also Zelda, though I haven't played that) as well, and "good" and "bad" are as subjective as they come, anyway. You're giving me a good idea here, though; why not call it by the much more clear, obvious and objective name "Final Bosses"? (Also, isn't Crazy Hand the final boss in a Smash Bros. game? Master Hand as well, as far as I'm aware.)--Vellidragon 10:06, 15 August 2011 (CDT)