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::To be honest, I think that's more a result of awkward translation (it ''is'' the game that brought us "Mr. Flosty" after all, something that I couldn't believe would happen in a mid-2000's localization). The English line is, "''{{color|orange|Mirror-world Kirby}} will be there to keep them all safe!''" The Japanese line is, 「これからは{{color|orange|カガミのくに}}の{{color|orange|カービィ}}が{{color|orange|へいわ}}をまもってくれるでしょう」 Even if you don't read Japanese, you can see the color break in the line between the location name and Kirby's name, which the English version ignores and thus gives an impression that we're learning Shadow Kirby's true name when it's rather just reaffirming his intentions (akin to King Dedede in the epilogue of ''Kirby's Adventure''). A closer translation would be something along the lines of, "''From now on, the {{color|orange|Kirby}} of the {{color|orange|mirror world}} will be there to protect the {{color|orange|peace}}.''" Given that and the sticker recently using the name Shadow Kirby, my suggestion is to rename this article to Shadow Kirby, with the existing article as "Shadow Kirby (Kirby Fighters)" for now. [[User:AdieuLain|AdieuLain]] ([[User talk:AdieuLain|talk]]) 00:54, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
::To be honest, I think that's more a result of awkward translation (it ''is'' the game that brought us "Mr. Flosty" after all, something that I couldn't believe would happen in a mid-2000's localization). The English line is, "''{{color|orange|Mirror-world Kirby}} will be there to keep them all safe!''" The Japanese line is, 「これからは{{color|orange|カガミのくに}}の{{color|orange|カービィ}}が{{color|orange|へいわ}}をまもってくれるでしょう」 Even if you don't read Japanese, you can see the color break in the line between the location name and Kirby's name, which the English version ignores and thus gives an impression that we're learning Shadow Kirby's true name when it's rather just reaffirming his intentions (akin to King Dedede in the epilogue of ''Kirby's Adventure''). A closer translation would be something along the lines of, "''From now on, the {{color|orange|Kirby}} of the {{color|orange|mirror world}} will be there to protect the {{color|orange|peace}}.''" Given that and the sticker recently using the name Shadow Kirby, my suggestion is to rename this article to Shadow Kirby, with the existing article as "Shadow Kirby (Kirby Fighters)" for now. [[User:AdieuLain|AdieuLain]] ([[User talk:AdieuLain|talk]]) 00:54, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
:::As I said in an earlier talk, if the localization team made a mistake, we have to live with it until such a time that it can be overcome with further entries, since we are an English localization wiki first and foremost. If Mirror-world Kirby gets a role in a future game and is definitively called Shadow Kirby, then we can change this article's title. --[[User:Fubaka|Fubaka]] ([[User talk:Fubaka|talk]]) 01:01, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
:::As I said in an earlier talk, if the localization team made a mistake, we have to live with it until such a time that it can be overcome with further entries, since we are an English localization wiki first and foremost. If Mirror-world Kirby gets a role in a future game and is definitively called Shadow Kirby, then we can change this article's title. --[[User:Fubaka|Fubaka]] ([[User talk:Fubaka|talk]]) 01:01, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
::::I'm aware that the wiki is English, but ultimately speaking, ''Kirby'' is a Japanese series, so it wouldn't be entirely prudent to dismiss this observation, especially since we ''do'' have a very recent appearance (albeit a cameo) that does definitively label him as such. [[User:AdieuLain|AdieuLain]] ([[User talk:AdieuLain|talk]]) 01:09, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
::::I'm aware that the wiki is English, but ultimately speaking, ''Kirby'' is a Japanese series, so it wouldn't be entirely prudent to dismiss this observation, especially since we ''do'' have a very recent appearance (albeit a cameo) that does definitively label him as such. Besides, it is apparently not called the "[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PMZwlqiaSs&t=5m23s Mirror] [https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/kirby/images/e/eb/KSA_Channel_Dream_Friends_Wave_2.png/revision/latest?cb=20180904072251&path-prefix=en World]" anymore, so even if the stilted line is still interpreted as Shadow Kirby's name, it is no longer current. [[User:AdieuLain|AdieuLain]] ([[User talk:AdieuLain|talk]]) 01:34, 17 September 2019 (UTC) [[User:AdieuLain|AdieuLain]] ([[User talk:AdieuLain|talk]]) 01:09, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

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In Super Kirby Clash, there's a sticker called "Shadow Kirby, which features that artwork of Mirror-World Kirby from Kirby and The Amazing Mirror. So, yeah, I guess HAL wants it to be called Shadow Kirby, and I think it should be renamed (as it's the latest name he received and it's not the first time he is named like this). --—Preceding unsigned comment added by Magma (talkcontribs) 23:07 September 16th, 2019. Please always sign your comments by typing ~~~~!

He is called Shadow Kirby at first in his origin game as well, but the purpose of that was to disguise his identity to the player. If we renamed this article to Shadow Kirby, it would get in the way of the other Shadow Kirby from Kirby Fighters, who is not known by any other name. --Fubaka (talk) 00:00, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
To be honest, I think that's more a result of awkward translation (it is the game that brought us "Mr. Flosty" after all, something that I couldn't believe would happen in a mid-2000's localization). The English line is, "Mirror-world Kirby will be there to keep them all safe!" The Japanese line is, 「これからはカガミのくにカービィへいわをまもってくれるでしょう」 Even if you don't read Japanese, you can see the color break in the line between the location name and Kirby's name, which the English version ignores and thus gives an impression that we're learning Shadow Kirby's true name when it's rather just reaffirming his intentions (akin to King Dedede in the epilogue of Kirby's Adventure). A closer translation would be something along the lines of, "From now on, the Kirby of the mirror world will be there to protect the peace." Given that and the sticker recently using the name Shadow Kirby, my suggestion is to rename this article to Shadow Kirby, with the existing article as "Shadow Kirby (Kirby Fighters)" for now. AdieuLain (talk) 00:54, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
As I said in an earlier talk, if the localization team made a mistake, we have to live with it until such a time that it can be overcome with further entries, since we are an English localization wiki first and foremost. If Mirror-world Kirby gets a role in a future game and is definitively called Shadow Kirby, then we can change this article's title. --Fubaka (talk) 01:01, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
I'm aware that the wiki is English, but ultimately speaking, Kirby is a Japanese series, so it wouldn't be entirely prudent to dismiss this observation, especially since we do have a very recent appearance (albeit a cameo) that does definitively label him as such. Besides, it is apparently not called the "Mirror World" anymore, so even if the stilted line is still interpreted as Shadow Kirby's name, it is no longer current. AdieuLain (talk) 01:34, 17 September 2019 (UTC) AdieuLain (talk) 01:09, 17 September 2019 (UTC)