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Regarding "is Another Dimension" vs "looks like Another Dimension"[edit]

I see a conjecture template was added regarding that, and I feel handling Another Dimension in general can get really... confusing. In general, I would advise to rewrite this page as a whole to be less ambiguous, and also stuff that maybe is related to Another Dimension but it's not confirmed. I feel that, while it could fall under speculation, many of these cases have evidence pointing towards it being Another Dimension, it was just never said it was it directly. Here is a good resource to reference, also, with the full summary being:

  • Another Dimension is the name of the dimension that has (or literally is just) the interdimensional tunnel/extra-dimensional road that connects Popstar and Halcandra.
  • Another Dimension leads to various dimensions (such as the 4 dimensions in Star Allies, with the Final Dimension at its end) and transcends space-time.
  • Sphere Doomers nest here.
  • The Lor can access Another Dimension and the energy of Energy Spheres cause Dimensional Rifts.
  • Hyness also opened a Dimensional Rift (the… pool at the Altar?) by praying continuously.
  • Parallel enemies in TKCD and SKC are parallel because they come from another world.
  • Parallel enemies in Star Allies also originate from another world, but somewhat notably all of them were born there from spirits.
  • The butterfly of judgement and the incarnated vessel of God both came from another dimension.
  • Halcandra is only ever referred to with 別の世界 betsu no sekai once and otherwise 異世界 isekai. Both these terms have also been used to refer to another dimension. In fact...
  • In summary, Another Dimension has been referred to as 異空間, 別次元, アナザーディメンション, another dimension, 異空, 異世界, イクウカン, 別の世界, 異界, and maybe 別次元の世界.

One thing we can already see we get wrong in the wiki is that HiAD doesn't exactly happen in Another Dimension, but in other dimensions but we did get there thanks to it. Another Dimension is basically a "hub" to other dimensions. - Gigi (talkedits) 15:06, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Sounds good. Superbound (talk) 15:50, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
Differentiating further between Another dimension and other alternate dimensions definetely seems good, but how would the non-AD dimensions be handled? Would they be a separate section on this page or would they be on a separate page? ---PinkYoshiFan 16:17, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
Bump ---PinkYoshiFan 15:27, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
Bump 2 ---PinkYoshiFan 15:28, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
I agree on rewriting this to accommodate those inconsistencies. I think about having the page with two big sections, one as "Confirmed Another Dimension appearances" and a second one with "Possible Another Dimension appearances" and so listing the confirmed ones in the former and the possible ones in the latter. Something that I'm worried about is the translation inconsistencies. For example, the English version of the pause screen description of Parallel Woods states that he comes from Another Dimension, but for what I get the Japanese one doesn't say that he comes directly from there, but instead that he comes from a different world without specifying where. In those cases I guess that we would go with the Japanese version as it is the original one, but still those cases are something to take into account.
Supposing that we are able to track down what comes from another dimension and what not, I'd say that we list things like the parallel Kirby Clash bosses in the "Possible Another Dimension appearances" section, as they are described to come from a different world but not necessarily the another dimension. I also want to bring up something that Sacred Faerie mentioned once I think, which is that "another dimension" is always in lowercase with the only exceptions being the name of the level and the name of Heroes in Another Dimension. Even the description of HiAD mentions it in lowercase, so I don't know if we should decapitalize the mentions of it or what. :P -Zolerian (talk | contribs) 23:01, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
Having two big sections for confirmed/unconfirmed sounds like it could work (as long as the unconfirmed section doesn't conflict with the conjecture policy, if it does then this page should be just confirmed and put unconfirmed on list of mysteries). As for translation errors, I'm not sure how we would handle them, but in Parallel Woods' case I don't think they're inconsistient- the English says it's an incarnation of a past foe, and the Japanese says it was born from the spirits of defeated Whispys gathering in another dimension. I feel like the Kirby Clash bosses could be listed under the possible section. As for the capitalization, that's definitely important. If it's capitalized in the title of something but decapitalized in normal sentences, then it could just be capitalized due to being title case and isn't meant to be capitalized normally, which definitely seems to be the case for HiAD, not sure on if it's the case for RtDL Another Dimension or not. ---PinkYoshiFan 16:35, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
The Japanese name of Level 8: Another Dimension in RtDL is "The last battle in another dimension". Like that, written in English, with "another dimension" in lowercase; it was changed just in the English version. That may be a typo, but is still how it is named in the original version. Following that document linked above, both one of Magolor lines and Grand Doomer's description name another dimension in lowercase in the English version of the game. So in RtDL is on uppercase only in the Level's name and only in the English version of the game. -Zolerian (talk | contribs) 19:04, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
I think the sections should be named "Game appearances" - for confirmed, would be formatted like it is currently - and "Similar realms" - for resembling it, a bullet point list, maaaybe prose with paragraphs, but no sub-sections. That's at least how I imagine this. Superbound (talk) 15:08, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
Having the unconfirmed section be a bulleted list seems like it could work. Also, something else that I just noticed- how are we going to handle the travel to Another Dimension section? Of those, Parallel bosses, Elfilin/Elfilis, Star Dream, and Galacta Knight may not qualify as opening rifts to the true Another Dimension if not all appearances of something that looks like Another Dimension are counted as Another Dimension. ---PinkYoshiFan 15:37, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
Bump ---PinkYoshiFan 16:36, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
I would just remove them from there and instead place them in the "Similar realms" section.
Anyway, unless anybody opposes I will carry out the change sometime soon. Superbound (talk) 15:23, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
All this sounds good to me. Would be nice to have things tidier and not so confusing. Go right ahead. -- Jellytost (talk) 15:31, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
I know this may sound like a dumb thing to bump, but I've pretty much handled everything at this point, since this was really long overdue. Feel free to edit if needed. -- KatFL language C.svgKatFL language Y.svgKatFL language O.svgKatFL language N.svg (profile ::: talk) 01:07, 3 December 2023 (UTC)