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|image= [[File:E24 Scene 23.png|300px]]<br />
|caption= [[Yamikage]] attempts to strike [[Ninja]] [[Kirby (anime)|Kirby]] down in a duel.<br />
|release= {{Released|Japan|March 16, 2002|NA|November 23, 2002}}<br />
|episode= 24<br />
|4kids=22<br />
|ability= [[Ninja]]<br />
|monster= [[Yamikage]]<br />
|character= [[Kirby (anime)|Kirby]], [[Benikage]], [[Tuff]], [[King Dedede (anime)|King Dedede]]<br />
|previousepisode=[[The Empty Nest Mess]]<br />
|nextepisode=[[Escargoon Rules]]<br />
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'''Ninja Binge''' is the 24th (22nd in the 4Kids broadcast) episode of the ''[[Kirby: Right Back at Ya!]]'' series. In this episode, a ninja-in-training named [[Benikage]] attempts to recover a scroll containing his bad report card from his school, but fails to retrieve it from [[Professor Curio]]'s shop, who believes it to be an artifact. This attempt causes the people of [[Cappy Town]] to become interested in ninja arts, and a brief ninja fad sweeps the town. [[King Dedede (anime)|King Dedede]] takes interest as well, and steals the scroll for himself, taking it to his castle. Benikage attempts to recover the scroll again, but is discovered by [[Kirby (anime)|Kirby]] and is stopped in Cappy Town, where he explains himself to [[Tiff]] and [[Tuff]]. King Dedede sends the former [[Star Warrior]] and traitor ninja [[Yamikage]] to recover the scroll, which he succeeds in doing, but he is also defeated by Kirby after obtaining the [[Ninja]] ability from one of his throwing knives.<br />
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This episode marks the only appearance of the [[Ninja]] [[Copy Ability]] in the series.<br />
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==Characters==<br />
The following characters appear in this episode:<br />
{| class="wikitable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" border="1" cellpadding="2"<br />
!colspan=3|Cast of "Ninja Binge" &nbsp;<br />
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!Selected quote<br />
!Notes<br />
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!colspan=3|Primary characters<br />
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|<center>[[File:E24 Kirby.png|100px]]<br>'''[[Kirby (anime)|Kirby]]'''</center><br />
|''"Poyaaaa?"''<br />
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|<center>[[File:E24 Benikage.png|100px]]<br>'''[[Benikage]]'''</center><br />
|''"What's up with all the fake ninja stuff?"''<br />
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|<center>[[File:E24 Tuff.png|100px]]<br>'''[[Tuff]]'''</center><br />
|''"We'll never become ninjas this way!"''<br />
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|<center>[[File:E24 King Dedede.png|100px]]<br>'''[[King Dedede (anime)|King Dedede]]'''</center><br />
|''"Bunch of juvenile delinquencies!"''<br />
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!colspan=3|Secondary characters<br />
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|<center>[[File:E24 Cappies.png|100px]]<br>'''[[Cappy (anime)|Cappy villagers]]'''</center><br />
|''"Don't let 'em see us!"''<br />
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|<center>[[File:E24 Chef Kawasaki.png|100px]]<br>'''[[Chef Kawasaki (anime)|Chef Kawasaki]]'''</center><br />
|(no dialogue)<br />
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|<center>[[File:E24 Chief Bookem.png|100px]]<br>'''[[Chief Bookem]]'''</center><br />
|''"Somebody broke into your shop just to steal this fancy paper towel holder?"''<br />
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|<center>[[File:E24 Escargoon.png|100px]]<br>'''[[Escargoon]]'''</center><br />
|''"I shoulda known I'd take a plunge if I used plungers!"''<br />
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|<center>[[File:E24 Fololo & Falala.png|100px]]<br>'''[[Lololo & Lalala (anime)|Fololo & Falala]]'''</center><br />
|(Falala) ''"The ninja in the dark arm{{o}}r!"''<br>(Fololo) ''"We found out that he works for Night Mare Enterprises!"''<br>(Falala) ''"Yeah, he betrayed the Star Warriors!"''<br />
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|<center>[[File:E24 Gengu.png|100px]]<br>'''[[Gengu]]'''</center><br />
|''"Welcome to Gengu's ninja supply store, carrying all the hottest ninja gear! Ninja apparel, and genuine imitation scrolls!"''<br />
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|<center>[[File:E24 Gus.png|100px]]<br>'''[[Gus]]'''</center><br />
|(no dialogue)<br />
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|<center>[[File:E24 Hana.png|100px]]<br>'''[[Hana]]'''</center><br />
|(no dialogue)<br />
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|<center>[[File:E24 Honey Iro Spikehead.png|100px]]<br>'''[[Honey]]''', '''[[Iro]]''', & '''[[Spikehead]]'''</center><br />
|(Iro) ''"But what can we do, Tuff?"''<br>(Spikehead) ''"You're supposed to throw at the target!"''<br />
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|<center>[[File:E24 Mayor Len.png|100px]]<br>'''[[Mayor Len Blustergas]]'''</center><br />
|''"I didn't know you two were tap dancers!"''<br />
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|<center>[[File:E24 Melman.png|100px]]<br>'''[[Melman]]'''</center><br />
|''"You're some huffer, your Highness!"''<br />
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|<center>[[File:E24 Meta Knight.png|100px]]<br>'''[[Meta Knight (anime)|Meta Knight]]'''</center><br />
|''"Ninjas were strong and hon{{o}}rable Star Warriors, not thieves! I battled alongside many of them. Ninjas were renowned throughout the galaxy for their great skill in battle."''<br />
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|<center>[[File:E24 Curio.png|100px]]<br>'''[[Professor Curio]]'''</center><br />
|''"The ninjas were skilled martial artists. They could outrun the wind, leap over buildings...they could even make themselves invisible."''<br />
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|<center>[[File:E24 Samo.png|100px]]<br>'''[[Samo]]'''</center><br />
|(no dialogue)<br />
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|<center>[[File:E24 Star Warriors.png|100px]]<br>'''[[Star Warrior]]s'''</center><br />
|(no dialogue)<br />
|Appear in a flashback.<br />
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|<center>[[File:E24 Tiff.png|100px]]<br>'''[[Tiff]]'''</center><br />
|''"That's true, but you don't think it was a ninja who tried to steal that scroll?"''<br />
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|<center>[[File:E24 Yamikage.png|100px]]<br>'''[[Yamikage]]'''</center><br />
|''"I want that scroll! Do not challenge me, or you will regret it!"''<br />
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|}<br />
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==Locations==<br />
*[[Dream Land (anime)|Dream Land]]<br />
**[[Cappy Town]]<br />
**[[Castle Dedede]]<br />
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==Plot synopsis==<br />
[[File:E24 Scene 4.png|thumb|150px|Professor Curio shows the ninja scroll to the gathered crowd.]]<br />
The episode begins late at night in Cappy Town, as a shadowy character is sneaking around the village. He quietly infiltrates Professor Curio's museum and attempts to steal an archaic scroll, but triggers a trap set up by Curio and fails to escape with it. The next day, a crowd of Cappies gathers around the crime scene as Chief Bookem investigates. Professor Curio explains to those present that the object the perpetrator was trying to steal is an ancient scroll containing the secrets of the ninjas. Hearing about ninjas for the first time, Tuff gets excited about the idea and wants to try to be one. Later on, King Dedede and Escargoon drive into town in their [[Armored Vehicle]], investigating due to all the Cappies having reportedly disappeared from the village. As they arrive in town, they are soon "attacked" by some of the Cappy kids, who are dressed up as ninjas. Soon Mayor Len and Melman show up, also dressed as ninjas, and explain the recent fad.<br />
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Seeing Gengu's ninja apparel on sale, King Dedede acquires one of his imitation scrolls and drives off. He then arrives at Curio's museum and asks to see the scroll that the town is talking about. Against his better judgement, Curio shows them the scroll, and while Escargoon distracts him, King Dedede swaps the fake scroll for his. This is noticed both by the kids outside and the burglar from the night before, who is still hiding in the shop. The kids pipe up about it, but King Dedede manages to slip away with some confounding remarks. Back at the castle, King Dedede and Escargoon get to work trying out some ninja tricks from the scroll they stole. Watching this, Tiff grows frustrated with the fad, insisting that the ninjas aren't even around anymore, but Meta Knight soon corrects her, explaining that ninjas fought alongside the [[Star Warrior]]s in the war against [[Night Mare Enterprises]], but one in particular turned against them.<br />
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[[File:E24 Scene 15.png|thumb|left|150px|Benikage attempts to make off with the scroll.]]<br />
Back in town, Tuff, Kirby, and the Cappy kids are still practicing their ninja skills with little success. They decide they need to get the scroll back from King Dedede to learn how to be proper ninjas. Tuff and Kirby sneak into the castle at night and grab the scroll from a snoozing Escargoon, but Kirby soon notices they are being followed and spots the burglar from before with his flashlight. As everyone wakes from the commotion, Tuff explains they found a real ninja, and Kirby manages to spot him again. The ninja then drops down clumsily, but manages to get the scroll and run. In town, the ninja is soon halted in his tracks in Cappy Town by the Cappies, and falls from his hiding place in the central tree and is caught by Tiff, Tuff, and Kirby. He tries to defend himself, but misses with each of his throwing stars. This causes him to break down in tears over his lack of skill.<br />
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[[File:E24 Scene 25.png|thumb|150px|Yamikage is defeated by Kirby.]]<br />
Later on, Benikage explains to the kids that the scroll in question was not anything special; just his report card from ninja school, and he wanted to retrieve it so nobody could see his bad grades. Tuff resolves to help him learn how to improve his skills along with Kirby. The two begin with throwing star practice, which Kirby refuses to take seriously. Meanwhile, at the castle, King Dedede has called in the turncoat ninja Yamikage through his [[Night Mare Enterprises Teleporter]], and ordered him to retrieve the lost ninja scroll. Yamikage soon finds the kids at the target range and engages Benikage in a duel for the scroll. Fololo & Falala arrive to tell the kids who the opposing ninja is. As the battle progresses, Meta Knight attempts to intervene, but Yamikage pins him down. He then knocks the scroll out of Benikage's hand and into King Dedede's, and prepares to finish the young ninja off with a kunai, but Kirby inhales it and transforms into [[Ninja]] Kirby.<br />
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Kirby then does battle with Yamikage, going toe-to-toe with him using advanced ninja skills such as teleportation and the [[Air Drop]] technique. Having defeated Yamikage, the ninja swears revenge and vanishes in a puff of smoke as King Dedede gets away with the scroll. As he flees, Yamikage deduces that Kirby and Meta Knight must be the last of the Star Warriors, and that he will be back to finish them off some day. Meta Knight warns Kirby that they will surely cross paths again. That evening, Kirby and the kids bid Benikage farewell, as the young ninja promises to go back to ninja school and try again for better grades. He attempts to exit in a flashy manner, but ends up getting swept away by a river he falls into. The kids wave him good-bye regardless as the episode ends.<br />
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==Differences between versions==<br />
*In the Japanese version, a short shot of [[Tiff|Fumu]] getting ninja stars thrown around her by King Dedede and [[Escargoon|Dr. Escargon]] is present, which was cut in the 4Kids version. Additional shots of King Dedede throwing ninja stars at Escargon are also cut.<br />
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===Dialogue differences===<br />
*The names of Benikage and Yamikage are derived from the Japanese version of the show, as their names are never given in the 4Kids dub.<br />
*In the Japanese version, Professor Curio also mentions that Ninjas could walk on water. This was likely changed in the 4Kids dub to remove religious connotations.<br />
*In the Japanese version, Escargon distracts Curio by asking him about one of his jars, rather than saying the ice cream man is outside. Cappy Town does not appear to have an ice cream man in either version of the show.<br />
*In the 4Kids version, Benikage admits his throwing stars are plastic, but there was no such implication in the Japanese version.<br />
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==Trivia==<br />
*Throughout the episode, while most of the villagers are still dressed as ninjas, Kirby is intermittently in and out of his costume for no apparent reason.<br />
*During the scene when Kirby is throwing ninja stars with Benikage, Kirby celebrates when one of the stars returns to him like a boomerang, despite having never hit the target. He seems to have thought this to be the real goal of the exercise.<br />
*Despite Yamikage's promise that he would return to exact revenge on Kirby and Meta Knight, he never appears again in the series.<br />
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==Gallery==<br />
<gallery><br />
E24 Scene 1.png|Benikage sneaks around in Cappy Town in the dead of night.<br />
E24 Scene 2.png|Benikage fails to get away with a scroll from Curio's shop.<br />
E24 Scene 3.png|Kirby acts on instinct when he grabs the scroll.<br />
E24 Scene 5.png|King Dedede and Escargoon are bombarded with wooden ninja stars.<br />
E24 Scene 6.png|King Dedede acquires a fake scroll from Gengu.<br />
E24 Scene 7.png|King Dedede gets away with Curio's scroll after switching it with the fake.<br />
E24 Scene 8.png|Benikage nearly blows his cover in Curio's shop.<br />
E24 Scene 9.png|Tiff watches King Dedede and Escargoon playing ninja.<br />
E24 Scene 10.png|Flashback scene of Yamikage with the Star Warriors<br />
E24 Scene 11.png|Flashback scene of Yamikage after betraying the Star Warriors<br />
E24 Scene 12.png|Kirby tries throwing ninja stars.<br />
E24 Scene 13.png|Tuff and Kirby sneak in to the castle to retrieve the stolen scroll.<br />
E24 Scene 14.png|Kirby spots Benikage with his flashlight.<br />
E24 Scene 16.png|Benikage makes his way to Cappy Town after setting the castle on high alert.<br />
E24 Scene 17.png|Benikage hides in the town plaza tree from the ninja villagers.<br />
E24 Scene 18.png|Benikage loses his cool after failing to hit his targets.<br />
E24 Scene 19.png|Benikage reveals to the kids the content of the scroll.<br />
E24 Scene 20.png|King Dedede summons Yamikage through the Night Mare Enterprises Teleporter.<br />
E24 Scene 21.png|Yamikage engages in a duel with Benikage for the scroll.<br />
E24 Scene 22.png|Yamikage knocks the scroll out of Benikage's hand.<br />
E24 Scene 24.png|Kirby performs the Air Drop technique on Yamikage.<br />
E24 Scene 26.png|Benikage botches his exit.<br />
E24 Scene 27.png|The final shot of the episode<br />
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==Names in other languages==<br />
{{Names<br />
|ja=ニンジャ、ベニカゲ参上!<br />
|jaM=Visiting Ninja, Benikage!<br />
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== Mage sisters as dream friends ==<br />
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Can someone put in the news section that the Three Mage-sisters are going to be dream friends in 4.0.0? reveal video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57_DhgKqiIA [[User:Pinkyoshifan|Pinkyoshifan]] ([[User talk:Pinkyoshifan|talk]]) 12:21, 25 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Sure, will get on that right away. --[[User:Fubaka|Fubaka]] ([[User talk:Fubaka|talk]]) 18:08, 25 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== I can't put this where I want to so I'm putting it here==<br />
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I'm trying to create an account on FEW but whenever I try it comes up as an internal error-how do I get past this?[[User:Ghist|Ghist]] ([[User talk:Ghist|talk]]) 18:42, 6 February 2019 (UTC)<br />
:They likely have the same issue we had earlier this week. You will want to go to Grifkuba and tell them about this. --[[User:Fubaka|Fubaka]] ([[User talk:Fubaka|talk]]) 20:43, 6 February 2019 (UTC)<br />
::OK,where do I talk to them?(also thx)[[User:Ghist|Ghist]] ([[User talk:Ghist|talk]]) 13:29, 7 February 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::I am getting word that the issue over there has been fixed. Try making an account there again. --[[User:Fubaka|Fubaka]] ([[User talk:Fubaka|talk]]) 18:27, 7 February 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Nintendo Switch Online ==<br />
Should we mention in the news that Kirby's Adventure was released on Nintendo Entertainment System - Nintendo Switch Online? The Mario Wiki mentions NES game rereleases on Nintendo Switch Online. [[User:Luigi1234|Luigi1234]] ([[User talk:Luigi1234|talk]]) 13:46, 13 February 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Nintendo's news article about that was referenced on the game's article ''[[Kirby's Adventure]]'' under the attribute "Release Date(s)", though neither a [[Help:References|reference]] for the version on, or an article [[NES Classic Edition]] yet exists as far as I'm aware. Either way, I think we're firstly needing a cleaning up of the wiki and improvements on the [[Help:Contents|Help & Policy pages]], many of these are pretty outdated and poor in comparison to other wikis', so until then, suggest/ask and/or implement whatever you think is valuable, and references before they're lost are always good to store somewhere even if there exists a better to-be-made place but you're not up to creating it, but just don't place references too far away from suitable locations. Of course, that should refer to situations where your way seems more suitable than the way the wiki's current policies suggest. --[[User:Viperision|Viperision]] ([[User talk:Viperision|talk]]) 14:17, 13 February 2019 (UTC)<br />
::If I may interject, this has nothing to do with the NES Classic Edition, nor should 'cleaning of the wiki' take priority over important coverage of recent events on the wiki. That said, I don't think this particular event is notable enough to warrant being placed on the News section, given how many times ''Kirby's Adventure'' has been re-released in the past. --[[User:Fubaka|Fubaka]] ([[User talk:Fubaka|talk]]) 18:19, 13 February 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::Oops.. didn't notice quite well that Luigi1234 asked about mentioning that in the News section of the main page - instead I thought he was asking about mentioning it generally. Since that was the case I thought, I then said it was mentioned on game's article already, then I also continued on commenting on what's actually not referenced yet (and that is/are Nintendo's news article(s) about NES Classic Edition). I think the rest is clear if you look it from my previous point of view that I described. Well, now that I understood the message correctly, I am not arguing that 'cleaning of the wiki' should take priority, it should not even interfere with the News section in way that blocks, well, the news. Thanks for understanding and I'm sorry for I misunderstood the original message. --[[User:Viperision|Viperision]] ([[User talk:Viperision|talk]]) 19:41, 13 February 2019 (UTC)<br />
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==Kirby's Extra Epic Yarn release==<br />
Kirby's Extra Epic Yarn has released in all regions that it is confirmed to be releasing in, but the home page thing still says that it has been released in most regions, which makes it seem that it will release in more regions at a later date. [[User:JRJ007|JRJ007]] ([[User talk:JRJ007|talk]]) 15:26, 9 May 2019 (UTC)<br />
:I just updated the template, but it might take some time for the main page to update. Shouldn't take long, though. -[[User:YoshiFlutterJump|<span style="color:#0a0">YFJ</span>]] ([[User talk:YoshiFlutterJump|<span style="color:#0a0">talk</span>]] &middot; [[Special:Contributions/YoshiFlutterJump|<span style="color:#0a0">edits</span>]]) 16:45, 9 May 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Kirby Wiki? ==<br />
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Why is the front page bearing the title "Kirby Wiki"? The wiki's name is '''Wi'''Kirby [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 20:39, 1 June 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Because people don't search Google for 'WiKirby'. --[[User:Fubaka|Fubaka]] ([[User talk:Fubaka|talk]]) 02:11, 2 June 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Main page link ==<br />
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On the Kirby Wiki page the Kirby 64 link in the 'Did you know' section doesn't work, so it should probably get fixed soon. -[[User:JRJ007|JRJ007]] 17:46, 2 June 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Now fixed. Thanks for reporting it. --[[User:Fubaka|Fubaka]] ([[User talk:Fubaka|talk]]) 20:16, 2 June 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Default Skin ==<br />
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For those of you who don't know me, I'm tacopill, one of the people who run things behind the scenes. <br />
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The current default skin has been with the wiki since the wiki's inception, but sadly, we have no one around to maintain it any more. <br />
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You see, it's a custom skin that doesn't get updated when MediaWiki has a new versions out, and therefore it needs to be maintained by volunteers outside of MediaWiki's main programers. They would help make sure any new bugs, inconsistencies, etc. that show up are taken care of. <br />
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With no one in grifkuba, or any of our hosted sites, affalites, etc. around to help do so, we are asking your community to discuss amongst yourselves what skin should be the default one? <br />
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The current one will still be available for anyone who doesn't want their personal preferences changed. <br />
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This is more about what the site determines is the default skin to show to regular viewers. <br />
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[[User:Results May Vary]] has made Kirby-fied versions of [https://wikirby.com/w/index.php?title=Kirby_Wiki&useskin=monobook Monobook] and [https://wikirby.com/w/index.php?title=Kirby_Wiki&useskin=timeless Timeless], so you can test out when you have a moment. <br />
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Please make sure, when testing them out, to also include testing them in different browsers, on mobile and desktop, and more. <br />
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Thank you, <br />
[[User:Tacopill|Tacopill]] ([[User talk:Tacopill|talk]]) 03:27, 1 August 2019 (UTC)<br />
:I like Monobook more than Timeless, but I do think the general style is an improvement over the existing design. The pink colors and star pattern feel more fitting for a Kirby wiki than solid blue. [[User:Scrooge200|Scrooge200]] ([[User talk:Scrooge200|talk]]) 03:51, 1 August 2019 (UTC)<br />
::Monobook is my preferred design interface. It just screams "Kirby" information in one easy to access and convenient place! &ndash; [[User:Owencrazyboy17|Owencrazyboy17]] ([[User talk:Owencrazyboy17|talk]]) 04:04, 1 August 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::I prefer Monobook over Timeless as well, but if Tacopill makes Timeless the default skin, i don't mind. Otherwise i prefer monobook [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 04:07, 1 August 2019 (UTC)<br />
::::Like the others, I prefer Monobook over Timeless, mainly due to the cleaner look of the main page with Monobook active. Feel free to use timeless if it's easier though. --[[User:Fubaka|Fubaka]] ([[User talk:Fubaka|talk]]) 06:42, 1 August 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::::How long should it be until the final decision is made? In 1-2 weeks' time? [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 23:26, 1 August 2019 (UTC)<br />
::::::Probably one week, like the proposals on Mario Wiki. {{User:Obsessive Mario Fan/sig}} 01:19, 3 August 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Like everyone else, I like Monobook the most. It's the style I mainly use. {{User:Obsessive Mario Fan/sig}} 21:12, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<br />
::While MonoBook is my favorite, this wiki's layout isn't very friendly to my device at all, and as such Vector is the skin I use most. I don't really care too much for Vector, but it's the only one my device can tolerate. -[[User:YoshiFlutterJump|<span style="color:#0a0">YFJ</span>]] ([[User talk:YoshiFlutterJump|<span style="color:#0a0">talk</span>]] &middot; [[Special:Contributions/YoshiFlutterJump|<span style="color:#0a0">edits</span>]]) 01:18, 3 August 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::I was going to go with "until consensus is established", but one week does sound reasonable. <br />
:::And there's been requests on I've gotten from various people for WiKirby-fied Vector and [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Skin:Nimbus Nimbus] skins (the latter of which was requested by a person from Halopedia). <br />
:::If I remember correctly: Monobook was one of the original skins built for the MediaWiki software, and was their default for years. It was eventually replaced as the default with Vector, due to Vector having more [https://www.w3.org/standards/webdesign/accessibility accessibility] built in from the start, instead of being added on later. But similar to Monobook, it wasn't designed with something in mind that later skins were; that being natively designed for Mobile devices, which as of [https://www.statista.com/statistics/277125/share-of-website-traffic-coming-from-mobile-devices/ 2017 represented 50% or more of all internet traffic in the world] and as of [https://developers.google.com/search/mobile-sites/mobile-first-indexing July 2019 Google's new prefrence in determining search rankings]. <br />
:::Fire Emblem Wiki switched over to Timeless since it is built with mobile in mind, and we then installed it on all the wikis we host that didn't have it. Sometime later, I saw RMV working on Monobook and then asked him to do Timeless due to the aforementioned outdatedness of the WiKirby skin. It not being designed for mobile hasn't helped much either, but hopefully switching will help the wiki improve its rankings. <br />
:::Now that everyone has had a chance to express an opinion, Monobook seems to be the most popular option for the default skin. I've given some new information on things, should anyone want to change their mind, now is their chance. You have until 03:27, 8 August 2019 (UTC) to voice opposition if you have them. {{unsigned|Tacopill|12:07, 3 August 2019}}<br />
::::Monobook is optimized for mobile starting with versions 1.32. You can see [https://zeldawiki.info Triforce Wiki] to see what i mean (it looks good on mobile), so similar could be adapted for here [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 13:09, 3 August 2019 (UTC)<br />
::If my input should matter and be valid, I'd stay with WikirbyClassic, but I do like Monobook minus minor issues (like "excessive pink" in literal, as in my thoughts it could be better with light blue or other cool color) and content layout ''leftovers'' or otherwise bad formatting itself. There you go, half a vote for the classic and other half for MonoBook, though'd be better if the classic could be improved 'cos I like some things other skins don't provide same way. —[[User:Viperision|Viperision]] ([[User talk:Viperision|talk]]) 18:01, 3 August 2019 (UTC)<br />
I personally prefer Monobook, but just because it's what I'm used to. [[User:Pinkyoshifan|Pinkyoshifan]] ([[User talk:Pinkyoshifan|talk]]) 18:32, 5 August 2019 (UTC)<br />
:I also prefer Monobook. --[[User:Raltseye|<span style="color:#FF6464">R</span><span style="color:#11BB11">alts</span><span style="color:#6464FF">eye</span>]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 15:31, 7 August 2019 (UTC)<br />
::The change has been implemented. Thanks for all who voiced their opinions. [[User:Tacopill|Tacopill]] ([[User talk:Tacopill|talk]]) 01:26, 8 August 2019 (UTC)<br />
:::You are welcome thank you for allowing the community to voice their opinions & accommodating for the editors :) [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 05:39, 8 August 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Allowing IP edits ==<br />
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With all these forthcoming changes finally coming to WiKirby, I have another proposal. How about around the same time we change to Monobook, we can open up editing to IP addresses. While IPs can make unconstructive edits like removing text, they can also help with making minor fixes on articles. In my opinion, they are often casual readers who read the articles and make minor corrections to them. If they are allowed to edit, we should make them answer the captcha questions to better protect against automated spam. Super Mario Wiki allows IP addresses to edit. [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 22:24, 3 August 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== 'Shroom? ==<br />
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Not sure where to put this, so... This is just a thought, but what if we had a newspaper on the WiKirby, something like The Mario Wiki's 'Shroom? I just think it would be neat to have something like that. [[User:Magolor04726|Magolor04726]] ([[User talk:Magolor04726|talk]]) 01:01, 4 March 2020 (UTC)Magolor04726<br />
:Considering the current activity on this wiki, we might be able to make a small version of that, but nothing quite as big as the 'Shroom. But if there's enough demand and enough people willing to write it, then it's absolutely possible. I like the idea personally, and I'd definitely be willing to help with that. -{{User:YoshiFlutterJump/sig}} 01:49, 4 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::I actually write for the 'Shroom, and if we get our own version here, I could either put the story I'm working on here as well, or maybe even make a spin-off series. Check that, I just had a brilliant idea for a spin-off series, and now I really want a newspaper here. I'd definitely be willing to help as much as I can. Should we bring up a proposal for this? [[User:Magolor04726|Magolor04726]] ([[User talk:Magolor04726|talk]]) 01:52, 4 March 2020 (UTC)Magolor04726<br />
:::Mmm, I think it'd take a lot more than a proposal. I think a lot of planning would be necessary for something like this. I'd like to see what Fubaka thinks of this idea; he might be able to make a special interest form for this, or something along those lines. (BTW, I actually used to write for the 'Shroom, too, if you've ever seen ''YFJ's Tips and Tricks'' in the Strategy Wing.) -{{User:YoshiFlutterJump/sig}} 02:00, 4 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::I had no idea I was talking with a veteran writer. So what are we going to do at the moment? [[User:Magolor04726|Magolor04726]] ([[User talk:Magolor04726|talk]]) 02:02, 4 March 2020 (UTC)Magolor04726<br />
:::::For now, we'll just wait for more people to respond. I'll go ahead and forward this discussion to staff chat. -{{User:YoshiFlutterJump/sig}} 02:55, 4 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::::So, What's the status on this? [[User:Magolor04726|Magolor04726]] ([[User talk:Magolor04726|talk]]) 00:10, 19 March 2020 (UTC)Magolor04726<br />
:::::::As it stands, I don't know if the wiki is active enough for that to be a continuous project, unless you are willing to helm it more-or-less by yourself. If you still want to do it, I would recommend starting small, so you don't overwork yourself. One other thing I would suggest is getting on the Discord server so you can chat with us more directly. --[[User:Fubaka|Fubaka]] ([[User talk:Fubaka|talk]]) 00:13, 19 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::::::I don't have access to the discord. Also, despite corona, my life has pretty much stayed the same, so I can't really take the helm for something like that. [[User:Magolor04726|Magolor04726]] ([[User talk:Magolor04726|talk]]) 01:02, 19 March 2020 (UTC)Magolor04726<br />
People keep saying the traffic isn't high enough for a paper. Out of curiosity, is there any place I can view the traffic info, or is it restricted? [[User:Magolor04726|Magolor04726]] ([[User talk:Magolor04726|talk]]) 03:09, 4 April 2020 (UTC)Magolor04726<br />
:I don't know if such a thing is viewable except to the site owner. Point is that there just aren't enough active contributors for this to become something big. While I have bigger fish to fry right now, I am definitely planning on hosting a community poll for this soon enough, to see if we have enough interested writers to make something. -{{User:YoshiFlutterJump/sig}} 03:32, 4 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Recent Changes ==<br />
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This is about [[Special:RecentChanges]] and is not a proposal that concerns the wiki's coverage as a whole. By default it has this for an interface (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/484532701509058560/692427161663045672/unknown.png), known as the "recent changes filter". A friend complained to me about it, so I felt I should bring it up with WiKirby just to see what your input is of it. At the time of writing this, WiKirby is running on MediaWiki 1.32. In the Recent Changes section of [[Special:Preferences]], you can click "Hide the improved version of Recent Changes" to change the look back to this (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/374237263045066752/692430049214726224/Screenshot_at_2020-03-25_10-49-42.png). However, the option to tick that option is not in MediaWiki 1.33. My biggest issue with the new recent changes filter is that it hides [[MediaWiki:Recentchangestext]] by default & the webpage takes longer to load with rc filter. It works for Wikipedia, but in my opinion, it does not work as well for WiKirby.<br />
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This is why I am thinking of a compromise. On Super Mario Wiki, if you look at the Recent Changes, it has an Auto-Refresh tickbox, with the older recent changes layout being enabled globally. The main new feature of the rcfilter is the ability to refresh automatically. Several users here are from Super Mario Wiki and are used to its recent changes (see [[mariowiki:Special:RecentChanges|here]] for Super Mario Wiki's recent changes). This is primarily why I am wondering what everyone's opinion on this is:<br />
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Should we disable the current recent changes design and switch to that of Super Mario Wiki (with its AutoRefresh gadget) or leave the recent changes as it is? Seeing as I frequently patrol Wikirby to see how it's progressing along, I'd vote in favor for Super Mario Wiki's recent changes to be brought over to WiKirby. [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 18:17, 25 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Would switching to Super Mario Wiki's implementation also make consecutive edits more visible on Recent Changes by default? I don't really like how multiple edits for the same page on WiKirby are "combined" so that it takes more clicks than necessary to view the history individually. Super Mario Wiki doesn't do that, at least by default, which makes it easier and faster to read for me (I know it can be toggled off as a preference on WiKirby, but I'd rather have the same setup when signed in and off because it trips me up otherwise). If not, it still sounds like it's more efficient overall than the current design, so count me in as a yes. [[User:AdieuLain|AdieuLain]] ([[User talk:AdieuLain|talk]]) 16:14, 29 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::To enable the "show all changes individually", someone with server access would have to add <s><code>$wgDefaultUserOptions['usenewrc'] = 0;</code></s> to the localsettings. [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 21:44, 29 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:I agree to replacing to the Super Mario Wiki layout (and personally like grouping preference) with the auto-refresh checkbox. New one doesn't bring much, feels rather sloppy (for some displays) and seemingly takes longer to reload. Not sure if Tag filtering could also have a dropdown list of default tags (instead of having to type [[Special:Tags]] manually)? —[[User:Viperision|Viperision]] ([[User talk:Viperision|talk]]) 07:05, 4 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
::I agree with the change. The old design is just...better. It loads faster, too. -{{User:YoshiFlutterJump/sig}} 01:43, 7 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::Same here. &ndash; [[User:Owencrazyboy17|Owencrazyboy17]] ([[User talk:Owencrazyboy17|talk]]) 02:24, 7 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::Ok so this is only a backend issue but looks like <code>$wgDefaultUserOptions['rcenhancedfilters-disable'] = 1;</code> actually disables the rcfilter. The code i previously posted just doesnt automatically collapse everything under (2 changes) or (3 changes) or under an upload log if an action is done more than once. The previous code is just here for reference. The proposal has passed, and rcfilters have been disabled for the WiKirby community. [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 01:17, 8 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== NOW HIRINGGG ==<br />
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H E L L O K I R B I E S<br />
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Can anyone help me with the [[Top (copy ability)|Top (anime)]] page? It’s really messy and needs improvement.<br />
T H A N K S I N A D V A N C E<br />
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== User talk ==<br />
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I dunno if this is the right place to ask, but is it possible to restrict not-autoconfirmed users from creating pages in "User talk" namespace? If think such change should be made. There's not much takeback if they don't have it, as these pages are automatically created by [[User:Kirbot|Kirbot]] (and are only deleted if user is permabanned, which means there is no reason to recreate them) and would prevent ''that vandal'' from vandalizing further. If this change is too big, I can make a proposal. {{User:Superbound/sig}} 13:04, 2 September 2020 (UTC)<br />
:I completely understand why we would want to do this, but then [https://wikirby.com/w/index.php?title=Crusher&action=history they'll just target mainspace], which is arguably worse. {{User:Pinkyoshifan/sig}} 13:09, 2 September 2020 (UTC)<br />
::You two both have good points. While I think we could possibly also restrict creating user talk pages even further, vandals will just always find new ways to do vandalism. I'm curious about what others think, however. {{User:Gigi/sig}} 13:11, 2 September 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::Well, if thing's eventually look dicey, we could just prevent anonymous users from editing outright for some time as a last resort. &ndash; [[User:Owencrazyboy17|Owencrazyboy17]] ([[User talk:Owencrazyboy17|talk]]) 17:17, 2 September 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::'''@Pinkyoshifan''' Yea, you're right<br />
::::'''@Owen''' It this particular case, it wouldn't stop him/her, because he/she would be still able to create account, which would stop nothing. I don't disabling account creation outright is a good idea - look at Golden Sun Universe, it's a desert due to lack of new users.<br />
::::Also, can some answer "''is it possible to restrict not-autoconfirmed users from creating pages in "User talk" namespace''" from my original comment? {{User:Superbound/sig}} 11:03, 4 September 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Sure, now with the way things are headed, restricting anonymous users' editing capabilities won't help that much. But I was thinking recently that, as an actual last resort option, we could either disable account creation or protect every page for autoconfirmed users and higher only for a few days and see what happens. &ndash; [[User:Owencrazyboy17|Owencrazyboy17]] ([[User talk:Owencrazyboy17|talk]]) 22:16, 6 September 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Vandals have moved to mainspace now, so my original request is now outdated.<br />
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::'''@Owen''' I agree that restricting account creation should be last resort possibility, but what can we ''now'' to stop it or at least slow down.<br />
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::"''[...] we could either disable account creation or protect every page for autoconfirmed users and higher only for a few days and see what happens.''"<br />
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::What is the difference between first and second option? Both seem to achieve the same result, option 2 just seems more complicated?<br />
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::...Anyway, I need more people input on this. {{User:Superbound/sig}} 12:00, 7 September 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::{{Quote|What is the difference between first and second option? Both seem to achieve the same result, option 2 just seems more complicated?|Superbound, here}}<br />
:::The first option would still allow ips to edit mainspace, but not make new accounts (and therefore make user talk pages). The second option essentially locks the wiki unless you had an account before it happened (although instead of protecting every page, it would likely be easier to just revoke edit rights from all users and give them to autoconfirmed). Personally, I don't think it's too big of an issue since an admin ping in the discord usually takes care of the problem quickly, but I can see how it would annoy the admins themselves, so I'm not sure what we should do, if anything a this point. {{User:Pinkyoshifan/sig}} 12:40, 7 September 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::I know it's not an issue, but it's getting quite annoying. I'm not sure myself if we ''can'' do anything with exception of the "last resort protection", which I don't think we should use now. Still waiting for more feedback. {{User:Superbound/sig}} 13:12, 7 September 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Site News ==<br />
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Why are there two periods in the second sentence of the current site news? [[User:Magolor04726|-Mags]] ([[User talk:Magolor04726|talk]]) 19:30, 12 October 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Just a small typo. It can be fixed in a jiffy. --[[User:Samwell|Samwell]] ([[User talk:Samwell|talk]]) 19:33, 12 October 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Permission non-error ==<br />
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I created an article without reading the WiKirby creating article guides.</div>141.101.98.140