User talk:Lordofninjas1

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-- Kirbot (talk) 16:00, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Copy Ability - Smash Bros. Section

I rolled back the edits you made for a reason, so you should have contacted me for clarification instead of attempting the edit again. I have rolled it back because the table is in the context of Super Smash Bros., not the origin series of the fighters pertaining. Do not attempt to link to the original character pages again unless it is directly relevant to said original character. --Fubaka (talk) 15:13, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

I was half expecting you to tell me why you rolled them when you did it, pretty much every other wiki does it. I'm well aware that the table is Super Smash Bros related, I'm the one that created the table on the page and made most of the edits on it. you really should check the edits more closely, because I am linking to a direct relevance to the original character, like with Corrin I'm linking to the Corrin page on the Fire Emblem Wiki, or with characters like Bayonetta or Cloud who don't have wikis on the NIWA System, I go to the relevant character pages and link them there, not sure how much more "directly relevant to said original character" you can get, especially since pretty much every single one of those pages is just as good as the Smash Wiki page itself information wise, plus it gives the extra information about the character that the Smash Wiki doesn't, so technically speaking, linking to the ones outside of the Smash Wiki is actually a better option as it is more encyclopedically viable, since that is what Wikis tend to look for, and the fact that the Smash Character themself is just a version of the Original Character anyways, so I am actually linking to the Original by linking to the other wikis rather than just a version of them, in other words, if the Original Character didn't exist then the Smash version of them wouldn't exist either, so I'm not sure how much more original you can get than the Original Characters page itself. Not to mention, it's just supposed to list the copy abilities he gets in Smash, it's not supposed to link to the Smash wiki itself, just a list of copy abilities he gets in Smash, if that makes any sense. You are taking it a bit too literally. Lordofninjas1 (talk) 20:32, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Given that the table talks about abilities from Super Smash Bros., and that Kirby inhales the smash fighters, rather than the original characters themselves, I don't really think there's a case to link to the original character pages. The smashwiki pages are a lot more relevant, especially since the moves Kirby gets are their B specials. Despite this huge paragraph you've typed, I'm afraid I am not budging on this point. --Fubaka (talk) 20:36, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Looking at your profile it doesn't indicate to me that you are a Mod or Admin for the site and therefore have no power in determining what is proper and what is not in terms of what belongs on the table, only what you personally would prefer because you seem to be the only editor on it and don't like having your work tampered with. Had you paid attention to what I said you would notice that I say that yes the Smash Wiki pages are relevant to them, but that the other pages are even more relevant than that, because it includes the Smash Wiki information as well as extra information, and even lists the B Specials on the pages not on Smash Wiki. You are afraid that you are not budging because you don't want to. You don't have any power on the site (at least according to your profile page that pops up when someone clicks on your name). Due to you not having power on the site, I don't think it really matters if you want to budge on the point or not since you aren't the deciding factor, you are just saying you don't want your work changed because in your opinion it is correct. Lordofninjas1 (talk) 22:24, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Hell, even on your personal page you say that you are leaving Smash Bros. stuff to other people on the Wiki, indicating that you have willingly given up the right to really say what goes on the table and what doesn't. Lordofninjas1 (talk) 22:27, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

You are being quite rude. I would have been open to some sort of arrangement on this matter if you weren't acting this way. As it stands, I am an admin on this wiki, so you do need to pay mind when I revert something you do here. I'll give you one more chance to talk this out nicely. If you can't do that, I'm blocking you. --Fubaka (talk) 22:34, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

I apologize if I was coming across as rude, that was not my intent, I'm not sure what came across to you as rude, I felt as though I was simply stating an opinion, I wasn't calling you names or anything like that, I was simply stating an opinion based on things that I have been given/things I have seen. If you are truly an admin you need to make it more noticeable on your page, because just looking at your page I can't tell that you are an admin at all, you look like you are just a plain old user to me when I view your profile, which is also part of the reason I was speaking like I was. I noticed that you had blocked me originally before you put the one more chance thing. You stated that I was ignoring an admin as the reason for the block, however I feel that would have technically counted as a false block, as I wasn't ignoring you, I was communicating with you and haven't gone back and done any editing on the page since we have been talking, had I been ignoring you I wouldn't have even responded to or looked at your message and would have continued to edit the page and everything else, if that makes any sense. I again apologize if I came across as rude, I did not intend for my comments to be rude and simply meant it as stating my thoughts and opinions to what you had said, no rudeness or anything like that intended. I have realized a while back that I sometimes speak in a manner that comes across as rude to others when I am not meaning it to be rude or disrespectful, I have been trying to work on correcting that, but sometimes it still slips through. Lordofninjas1 (talk) 22:52, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

My initial block was a mistake, as I thought you'd gone and edited the table again before we were done here, which is why I immediately reversed the action. I've been a bit busy with the wiki, so I haven't had much time to consider editing my own page (which, incidentally is why I hadn't yet removed the comment about leaving Smash to other editors). Now, if you are amicable, I will now propose a compromise. How about we add another field to the table called (original character) or something of the such, where we link to the original character pages? Sound fair? --Fubaka (talk) 22:57, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

I would be willing to add another field to the table. My only concern about it is that it might make the table too large for the wiki or for the other admins liking or whatever, I know that tends to be a problem with things like this on Wikipedia and other Wikis as well. Other than that I have no issue with adding another field onto the table. When I had originally made the table and everything I had linked most of the characters and such to their other non-Smash Wiki pages (and actually when looking through it all those links are still there, its just Corrin, Ryu, Bayonetta, and Cloud I think that aren't like that, hell even the moves and whatever link to the other non-Smash Wiki articles for the moves as well) so originally I was editing it just so that it was all same and there wasn't anything that doesn't flow with the rest of the section, since I know that tends to be what Wikipedia and other Wikis like, if that makes any sense. I wouldn't mind moving those links should the change to the table be agreed upon, but if not, I feel as though I've proposed another compromise by stating the flow of the section thing or whatever. Lordofninjas1 (talk) 23:22, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Hmm, looks like that was edited back while I hadn't noticed, and now all this has happened. Do I look the fool. You know what, forget the compromise, do what you like with the table. It really doesn't matter that much to me anyway. Apologies for all the fuss. --Fubaka (talk) 23:27, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

I thank you for the permission to do as I wish on the table, as well as understand that that doesn't give me free reign to do what I want on the entire site. I believe that I too look a bit foolish as well. I also apologize for the argument and fuss and everything. Lordofninjas1 (talk) 23:56, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Don't worry about it. I will bear no ill will toward you. I've basically had to edit this wiki alone for years, so it's been a while since I've had to debate with anyone about what gets changed. I acted brashly and reverted your edit without realizing the rest of the table was already like the edits you were making. I've also had to block a lot of malcontents, so my trigger has become far too sensitive. Long story short, I dun goofed. --Fubaka (talk) 00:03, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

And I bear no ill will towards you either. Yeah, I can tell by the edit history for this page and such that you seem to be the only one doing edits on the Wiki. I wonder why no one else has done any editing, and kinda feel sorry that youve been doing it alone for so long. I can completely understand why you did what you did, and I probably would have done the same. You are forgiven. I also thank you for being so kind about everything, you dont see that a lot on the internet nowadays, so thank you. Lordofninjas1 (talk) 02:24, 21 March 2018 (UTC)