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Thank you, Tacopill 21:06, 23 September 2010 (CDT).

Out of curiosity, Why was the interwiki link removed? Tacopill 15:05, 24 September 2010 (CDT).

WiKirby is no longer using them because they make unremovable wanted pages, and the standard linking method works just as well. —Austin ^{(NIWA Operative)} 15:12, 24 September 2010 (CDT)

Ok. Makes sense. Tacopill 15:24, 24 September 2010 (CDT).

Removal of competitive data

I have removed competitive data because it has barely to do with Kirby series themselves. It also is way too dependent on tier list standing. I plan on removing it also from rest of the pages. Hope my reason are understandable. Superbound (talk) 18:45, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

I understand the idea of it being not directly related to the Kirby series, but the precedent that we were allowed to talk about competitive standing was set before I arrived on the scene in 2015. I feel like removing this sort of thing ought to be agreed upon by the community generally before you do so. --Samwell (talk) 18:48, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

Incidentally, I am going to put a dispute template on the page until we resolve this discussion, so please do not remove the info again until it is settled. I will be drawing the admins' attention to this page shortly. --Samwell (talk) 18:49, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

I think talking about their competitive standing is fine. Meta Knight's standing in particular is very notable. If nothing else, we can leave the specifics to SmashWiki, but I think it's fine if we keep it the way it is. StrawberryChan (talk) 18:53, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

I have similar thoughts to StrawberryChan. I would have an issue if we had a really long sections detailing their competitive ranks but, as it is right now, it's short and isn't really a problem in my eyes. Gigi (talk) 18:58, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

I think that, like StrawberryChan said, leave the specifics to Smashwiki, and maybe mention MK due to his infamy. Might could mention general standing competitively as well (mid-tier, low-tier, high-tier, etc.) ---PinkYoshiFan 18:59, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

Honestly I've gotta side with Superbound here. Specifics on competitive standings for unofficial tournaments for Smash--which isn't even directly a Kirby game--doesn't really have a place on a Kirby wiki. You could make a case for Brawl Meta Knight, sure, but even then, many of these tournaments aren't sanctioned by Nintendo, and again, we are WiKirby, not SmashWiki. So unless such information involves direct acknowledgment from Nintendo, I think it should go. --YFJ (talk · edits) 19:03, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, I could see that point being made as well. However, Smash being a competitive game, the community's ranking of each fighter is still an important part of the game. Maybe just trim them down to something like "Dedede is ranked 12th on the tier list" or "Meta Knight is notably ranked 1st on the tier list and widely believed to be the most effective fighter in the game" or something. StrawberryChan (talk) 19:13, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

Sounds like it could work, but then we would have to decide on a tier list. ---PinkYoshiFan 19:23, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

Could we maybe just mention Meta Knight is always at the top and how Kirby and King Dedede are mid-low and mid respectively? I suppose we don't need too many details. Or really just mention Meta Knight's tier (which I feel is the least we need to include as he's the top one). Gigi (talk) 19:27, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

Also note that, right now, Ultimate is the only game that doesn't have a definitive tier list, and all others do (see here). StrawberryChan (talk) 19:48, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

wow I though it would have max 2-3 comments when I wake up and wow never saw dispute template

Anyway, rereading section removed, I don't think now it should be removed entirely, only the competitive stuff. So, let's take "Tournament Standing" section from Kirby's description from this page:

"Kirby is currently ranked 20th on the Super Smash Bros. Brawl tier list - in D rank, as produced by the Smashboards community. While he has many strengths, especially in his combo game, Kirby has great difficulty approaching his foes, especially those who can rely heavily on projectiles. Despite the below-average ranking, Kirby has a decent average chance against the rest of the cast, easily beating most of the lower tier fighters, but easily beaten by the higher tier ones."

...I would remove the bolded part, while not bolded would reworded and expanded. Basically, turn it into "Strengths and Weaknesses" section.

The problem with tier lists is that some of them are pretty old and outdated. I think we should just present strengths and weaknesses, no matter their tier list standing.

Also, I would like to add that I'm planning on doing the same thing on other Super Smash Bros. pages, not only this one. Superbound (talk) 08:41, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Well, your plan seems to be in line with what most of the people have said here, so I suppose we can go with that. I will go ahead and remove the dispute now. --Samwell (talk) 14:25, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Revoke "Good" status - N1 (August 25, 2020 - August 25, 2020)

The article violates rule 2 - Sound of format (no improvement notice templates are present). It contains three stub templates:

• "Strengths and Weaknesses" section for Kirby
• "Strengths and Weaknesses" section for Meta Knight
• Lack of translated Chinese in "Names on other languages"

Once these issuses have been fixed, I think the "Good" status can be kept Superbound (talk) 10:34, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

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What are exactly the "Strengths and Weaknesses" sections you just added, and what are they missing to be marked as "stubs"? Gigi (talk) 11:12, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

These sections are meant for fighters (like the title says) strenghts and weaknesses (X is slow but powerful etc. etc.). Right now these section are lacking (sans Dedede's), and could be expanded. Superbound (talk) 11:30, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Alright, I went and fixed the issues, so we can drop this nomination now. --Samwell (talk) 15:50, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Thx for fixing them Superbound (talk) 16:00, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Link Error

Umm... There's a link at the bottom of the page that doesn't work.--Marx4Smash (talk) 13:43, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

Just fixed it! – Owencrazyboy17 (talk) 20:09, 22 September 2021 (UTC)